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    https://twitter.com/galileo44/status/707573092130934784
    Note: Link in the above tweet is to HKGolden Forum.


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    Bastille Post (video & photos)

    Edward Leung & Ray Wong of HKI (Hong Kong Indigenous) appeared to have met with 2 staff (a man & a woman) from the US Consulate, at Cova in Pacific Place, yesterday afternoon.

    They spoke for about 2 hours and some of the conversation appeared to have been conducted in Putonghua. Afterwards, Bastille Post reached Ray Wong via phone to ask him about who he met with and what they spoke about. He replied that it was a private matter and that he did not owe the public an explanation, then he hung up. Bastille Post was unable to reach Edward Leung for comment.

    The reason why Bastille Post thought the man & woman were US Consulate staff was because they followed the 2 to the US Consulate where they produced credentials to be let in.

    (They also picked up the tab.)

    Note: Edward Leung said he'd been followed by paparazzi all day that day. On the whole, the localists seem to view the meeting as a positive development.
    Last edited by threesummers; 15-03-2016 at 02:24 AM.

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    Last edited by threesummers; 11-03-2016 at 03:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threesummers

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    Bastille Post (video & photos)

    Edward Leung & Ray Wong of HKI (Hong Kong Indigenous) appeared to have met with 2 staff (a man & a woman) from the US Consulate, at Cova in Pacific Place, yesterday afternoon.

    They spoke for about 2 hours and some of the conversation appeared to have been conducted in Putonghua. Afterwards, Bastille Post reached Ray Wong via phone to ask him about who he met with and what they spoke about. He replied that it was a private matter and that he did not owe the public an explanation, then he hung up. Bastille Post was unable to reach Edward Leung for comment.

    The reason why Bastille Post thought the man & woman were US Consulate staff was because they followed the 2 to the US Consulate where they produced credentials to be let in.

    (They also picked up the tab for the meal.)

    Note: Edward Leung said he'd been followed by paparazzi all day that day. On the whole, the localists seem to view the meeting as a positive development.

    Localists meet with US consular staff
    Wong later confirmed to an Apple Daily reporter that the meeting on Wednesday was with staff from the US Consulate General.

    He said they wanted to know more about localism, but they didnt talk about the by-election during the meeting, Wong said.

    Wong said it was normal for the localists to meet with people from various fields, except from China, Apple Daily reported.

    Officers of the US Consulate General have allegedly been keeping close contact with local political groups in Hong Kong and providing suggestions to them, Sing Tao said.

    Early last year, with regard to the governments political reform package, they advised pan-democratic lawmakers to take it first, the newspaper said.
    Last edited by threesummers; 10-03-2016 at 09:15 PM.

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    https://www.facebook.com/Scholarism/...888804/?type=3
    Agnes Chow continues to advocate for non-violence.

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    Side note:

    Macau - before Scholarism members were banned

    August 2014 - Joshua Wong & Agnes Chow had just graduated high school (both 17 yrs old) and were in Macau to share their experiences with social movements. They were invited by a group called Macau Youth Dynamics who were screening the documentary "Lessons in Dissent".

    (in Cantonese)

    https://youtu.be/vK7gQThL6zg
    They are asked about harassment from pro-CCP forces. They talk about phone taps, attacks from leftist media, advice from earlier generations on how to hold secure meetings/discussions, what periods of time are most sensitive etc.. They state that being attacked means you are on the right track.

    Joshua talks about being followed while on his high school graduation trip to Taiwan. (Him & his friends were followed at the airport & on the subway - photographed & filmed - over 3 days. Those following them even managed to figure out Joshua's room number by calling his room to enquire about interviews - the call came from within the hotel. They knew trip details that Joshua hadn't even told his parents. Four men in total followed them. They were Taiwanese & spoke Mandarin. They approached Joshua first and asked him about his plans in Taiwan. They said they were hired by someone in Hong Kong. Joshua & his friends cut their trip short & changed their flight & were still followed to the airport.) Joshua was also named in China's Blue Paper on National Security (internal threats).



    https://youtu.be/Az87Dl9ZjKY
    They respond to a question about whether they received pressure from their high schools and families.

    For Joshua, his school was pretty supportive. He was told not to wear his school uniform at protests and not to miss class after the June 4th memorial. His school guidance counselor was a supporter of Raymond Wong Yuk-man. He also mentions a classmate who started off sceptical about social movements and then a year later, was occupying Civic Square with him.

    For Agnes, it was a bit tougher. She was someone who originally had no interest in politics or news - didn't even have the patience to read news crawls. She had been a Scholarism member for about a month and a half (without telling her family - she didn't dare tell them & didn't know how to tell them - she was 15 yrs old) and the July 1st march was coming up (she usually stayed at home on that day) and felt she owed her parents an explanation for why she'd be out for the entire day. Her parents were very worried/afraid that their daughter (whom they had never seen pay attention to politics/news) was being used politically. She told them about a boy named Joshua Wong, Scholarism & anti-National Education from start to finish, emphasizing that it was she herself that wanted to get involved.

    Her parents have never stopped her from participating. However, Scholarism used to have a weeknight internet radio program that ran from 10 pm to 12 am that she could never get to because she was required to be home before midnight. Being a girl, you are out late at night as meetings run very late or after events everyone stays behind to deal with supplies/count donations etc..

    As for her school, it wasn't as overtly supportive as Joshua's. She attended a strict all-girls school. Sometimes a teacher might pull her aside and in a low voice tell her that he/she would come out to support her that night. There were also classmates that felt she was participating merely to advance herself, but over time they came to realize she was serious.

    Last edited by threesummers; 15-03-2016 at 03:29 AM.

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