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    Quote Originally Posted by tf19:
    Whilst going up the escalators last night I had to walk by the Armoury in Tai Kwun and it was surprisingly quite busy. I've been to the Armoury many times before and have never noticed their food offerings - always assumed it was more of a bar - and noticed that none of the punters were actually eating anything.

    This draws reinforces the question and confusion on how the hell the current administration is actually defining and enforcing what constitutes a bar vs a restaurant. Ridiculous.
    Besides the unequal policing on distancing measures at restaurants, if we charitably interpret the ambitions and intentions of the administration, I would guess they aim to prevent mingling between strangers. The bar area, whether of pubs or restaurants might be one sensible focal point. If people are seated at tables and only socialising in their limited family/social group, whether they are eating or drinking alcohol should concern no one.

    Whether or not the administration or especially the police do have this clear-sighted objective, is of course open to reasonable doubt. I’m sure you know my feelings about how open to discussion the police appear to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kowloon72:
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    A fair few "F&B establishments" in TST are playing fast and loose with the new regulations. First place I was in insisted all customers ordered food (token order acceptable), next place which was busier as it was later didn't even bother with the pretence. Some places in East TST that I didn't even know sold food were still open for business.

    Five guys in K11 was mobbed. People waiting for seats by the time I was leaving.
    You are the reason societies have to write laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juanalias:
    You are the reason societies have to write laws.
    No, it's totally cool. It's covered under the guidelines under 'social distancing pub crawls'

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    To clarify which establishments should be closed or stay open. I was told by a business owner in the F&B that:

    - if you own a food license (restaurant type as there are different types of licenses), you stay open. The liquor license is an add on you have to apply for.

    - while for bar you apply for the club liquor license and additionally for food license.

    This is all a bit tricky but some places it's easy to see they're primarily selling food. While some it's just a grey area.

    Still to me it doesn't make sense, restaurants should be shut too and doing takeaways only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutark:
    To clarify which establishments should be closed or stay open. I was told by a business owner in the F&B that:

    - if you own a food license (restaurant type as there are different types of licenses), you stay open. The liquor license is an add on you have to apply for.

    - while for bar you apply for the club liquor license and additionally for food license.

    This is all a bit tricky but some places it's easy to see they're primarily selling food. While some it's just a grey area.

    Still to me it doesn't make sense, restaurants should be shut too and doing takeaways only.
    I agree that enforcement is tricky and that it would be easier to restrict to take away. That being said, the current number of cases has come back down, there's no evidence of widespread community transmission and testing numbers are good suggesting that there shouldn't be too many asymptomatic carriers in the community. The health system seems to be coping with the current volume of cases too so it doesn't seem like stricter measures are warranted at this point and given that the lack of space in HK, it doesn't seem unreasonable to maintain the status quo for now.

    I would like to hear the government's plan for moving forward. When do we start scaling back on local measures. I heard a suggestion which was when more people were being discharged than admitted for a number of days then it might be reasonable to start the process of returning to normal. As always, I'm not confident that the government has a strategy nor that they will be transparent about it.

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    It seems the new Kowloon station has closed and all high speed trains to mainland stopped - not sure if this had previously been reported. I saw it on my transport app which was also highlighting cancellation of connecting bus services.

    The same app was showing an uplift in bus services for Ching Ming .... religious stuff seems to be causing clusters all over the world ... something to watch here. Ching Ming and Easter... outdoor gatherings seem safe enough but if anything happens indoors... god help us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK_Katherine:
    It seems the new Kowloon station has closed and all high speed trains to mainland stopped - not sure if this had previously been reported. I saw it on my transport app which was also highlighting cancellation of connecting bus services.

    The same app was showing an uplift in bus services for Ching Ming .... religious stuff seems to be causing clusters all over the world ... something to watch here. Ching Ming and Easter... outdoor gatherings seem safe enough but if anything happens indoors... god help us.
    i believe the train station was closed long ago. Only the airport, bridge and one Shenzhen border were open. The bus service on the bridge has gone now so unless you have a private car with pass then that’s gone to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HK_Katherine:
    It seems the new Kowloon station has closed and all high speed trains to mainland stopped - not sure if this had previously been reported. I saw it on my transport app which was also highlighting cancellation of connecting bus services.

    The same app was showing an uplift in bus services for Ching Ming .... religious stuff seems to be causing clusters all over the world ... something to watch here. Ching Ming and Easter... outdoor gatherings seem safe enough but if anything happens indoors... god help us.
    Outdoor gatherings are safe ONLY if the space utilised for the gathering is as big as a football field, and the people part of the gathering are 10 MAX, with 5/6 meters from each other.
    (Ideally 2.5, but let's increase a bit for safety).

    Otherwise they are as bad as indoor gatherings.

    Qing Ming, Easter and whatever type of gathering, indoor or outdoor, whether for fun or religious purposes, should be forbidden for at least a month.
    On this I have to say I think Singapore has implemented a good move, not because the move makes a lot of sense itself, but because there are too many people saying

    "I can only meet 1-2 people"
    "Just me and hubby hiking"
    "We go to the beach for a walk, we have enough distance"

    NO.

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    Time to ease up on the restrictions in Hong Kong in my view. Gradually over a period of weeks rather than all at once. Situation is well under control and the spate of recent restrictions will have lowered current transmissions resulting in even lower cases 2-4 weeks out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by derecktan:
    Outdoor gatherings are safe ONLY if the space utilised for the gathering is as big as a football field, and the people part of the gathering are 10 MAX, with 5/6 meters from each other.
    (Ideally 2.5, but let's increase a bit for safety).

    Otherwise they are as bad as indoor gatherings.

    Qing Ming, Easter and whatever type of gathering, indoor or outdoor, whether for fun or religious purposes, should be forbidden for at least a month.
    On this I have to say I think Singapore has implemented a good move, not because the move makes a lot of sense itself, but because there are too many people saying

    "I can only meet 1-2 people"
    "Just me and hubby hiking"
    "We go to the beach for a walk, we have enough distance"

    NO.
    Evidence? Sounds like numbers you are pulling out of the air. Most countries are using 2m separation outside. For restaurants in HK, it's 1.5m separation INSIDE (and inside is clearly much higher level of risk than outside).

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