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What's the chance of sanctions on HK officials under the HK H.R and Democracy Act?

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    It might be a tad inconvenient, but they could quite easily ask a friend or relative to transfer for them. Maybe when abroad, they could even carry loadsamoney.....


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    Given the joint declaration is lodged with the UN shouldn't they do something if one of the parties breaks its terms?

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    The powerless elected legislative arm of the EU government talk tough.

    https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...5-20200620.htm

    The unelected powerful executive branch of the EU government will actually do....

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickyears:
    Sorry, but China (meaning the CCP) is taking the piss. The US supported Deng to come into the world the late 1970s, the US supported China's application to join the WTO. Along with the Sino-British Joint Declaration, those treaties have only worked one way. The CCP that signed all those agreements doesn't exist any more, and they don't care.
    You mean all those companies who moved production to China, lowering costs and increasing profits amount to nothing? It's a two way street - China got investment, technical know-how and jobs, the West got cheap products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    I do think they are using China's breaking of an international treaty as leverage.
    That's rich. Remind me, which countries engaged in illegal invasion (Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanisation, etc), occupation (Iraq, Syria, Afghanisation, etc) and subversion (Ukraine, Venezuela, etc) of sovereign countries? All these actions are breaking the UN Charter, an international treaty that most nations have signed.

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    Wow

    A lot of the pro-authoritarian posters that have been silent for months are back with gusto.

    Very sad. More whataboutism, dubious statements and vitriol. Obviously now open discussion is limited making GeoExpat a lot less pleasant a place to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Given the joint declaration is lodged with the UN shouldn't they do something if one of the parties breaks its terms?
    "The UN" is less a thing than a differentiated body of representative assemblies that usually have to vote on action. China has whipped considerable support even within the Human Rights Council, and wields a veto on the Security Council. Even getting the International Court of Justice to issue an advisory opinion would probably require winning a General Assembly vote among states China has often bought off.

    The most the UN Secretariat could do by itself is appoint a Special Envoy to oversee human rights in HK. But that would probably anger China and impede future cooperation. Plus the envoy wouldn't have much power beyond issuing reports.

    The "registered with the UN" line is usually trotted out because China denies the legitimacy of the Sino-British Joint Declaration as a treaty, so that helps establish its legitimacy.

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