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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoista:
    You don;t understand what I'm getting at., Sure, you could worry that it's coming, but emotionally people are going through the same ups and downs as a hype graph.

    In reality, Hong Kong does need a National Security Law, as most countries have this in place, obviously the details are different in each jurisdiction, however, it should be decided and defined by HK, not China.
    I do understand what you are getting at. You are suggesting it is a fear of the unkown. You are wrong. It is a fear of the known. The 'speak' from local officials now resembles the tone and style of the mainland. They are calling protesters terrorists when in most countries they would not even be classified as rioters. The Government and their organs are unable to be trusted with the powers they have so giving them more is clearly not in the public good.

    The HK Legislative branch no longer functions with powers stripped away. With the rigged majority and any delaying tactics taken away or criminalised the opposition that represent the majority are powerless to shape laws. It is no longer a legislature but a rubber stamp. So it is not possible for HK to define and decide laws anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoista:
    In reality, Hong Kong does need a National Security Law, as most countries have this in place, obviously the details are different in each jurisdiction, however, it should be decided and defined by HK, not China.
    Really? Hong Kong has done fine so far without a national security law. Most threats to national security like terrorist attacks are already covered by existing legislation. For being such a strong and powerful country China sure does get threatened easily. A bunch of school children with flags or some old dude exiled in India are all huge threats to national security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrgoodkat:
    Really? Hong Kong has done fine so far without a national security law. Most threats to national security like terrorist attacks are already covered by existing legislation. For being such a strong and powerful country China sure does get threatened easily. A bunch of school children with flags or some old dude exiled in India are all huge threats to national security.
    Looking at the actions of the police recently would confirm this. Just shouting something is met with extreme force. The police seem to have the power to enforce whatever they feel like without laws to enable to do so. They don’t really need anymore laws to support their actions.

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    Former HKU law professor Michael C. Davis warns of the incompatibility between HK's common law legal system and the mainland-style security laws and the damage this will do to what remains of HK's rule of law:

    https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion...jings-national

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    NPC approves new security law for HK
    https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...5-20200528.htm


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    Also, a small and irrelevant technicality...

    Beijing's top legislature has approved plans for national security legislation for Hong Kong that bans “activities” that endanger national security, but makes no reference to foreign judges being barred from handling such cases.
    Not approved new security law. The law has not been drafted yet.
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    You would think they would do a better job at this. If they are going to put up some fake "no" votes, having a single no vote hardly convinces any outside observer that the NPC is not a rubber stamp. But that's the NPC for you.
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