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  1. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    You are out of touch with reality. It is entirely possible to develop the app so that privacy is protected completely, as has been done in other countries. I suggest you inform yourself before shooting your mouth off.

    Let's face it, you don't have a good track record talking about issues around coronavirus
    If the government can use the app to trace who you have been in contact with, it sure as hell can get that information for any other reason. The difference to other countries is that they aren't run by a police force with nearly unlimited power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    You are out of touch with reality. It is entirely possible to develop the app so that privacy is protected completely, as has been done in other countries. I suggest you inform yourself before shooting your mouth off.

    Let's face it, you don't have a good track record talking about issues around coronavirus
    The app would not work here. I can't imagine all the people already wary of those new smart lampposts installing basically something authorities could use to track people (whether the fears are unfounded or not). It's less about whether it's possible to develop an app where privacy is protected, as you've said other countries have more or less done it (still, no roaring success for the StopCOVID app in France), but more about trust in who develops the app (if there's a HK one it'll go to a mainland tech firm no doubt), what data it collects (or rather what people believe it collects), and how that data is used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrgoodkat:
    If the government can use the app to trace who you have been in contact with, it sure as hell can get that information for any other reason. The difference to other countries is that they aren't run by a police force with nearly unlimited power.
    I guess you did not bother to educate yourself how they work. Oh well, more fool you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthieuTofu:
    The app would not work here. I can't imagine all the people already wary of those new smart lampposts installing basically something authorities could use to track people (whether the fears are unfounded or not).
    The authorities can not use it to track people. That is the whole point. The data resides on your phone, no ID like name is tracked at all, just random codes that change frequently and are deleted after three weeks anyway. No data is sent to servers, your name/HKID/phone number is never available to the app.... it has been designed by the ground up to ensure privacy

    Anyway, the authorities can already track everyone with mobile phone records. So if you are worried about being tracked, throw your mobile phone away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    The authorities can not use it to track people. That is the whole point. The data resides on your phone, no ID like name is tracked at all, just random codes that change frequently and are deleted after three weeks anyway. No data is sent to servers, your name/HKID/phone number is never available to the app.... it has been designed by the ground up to ensure privacy

    Anyway, the authorities can already track everyone with mobile phone records. So if you are worried about being tracked, throw your mobile phone away.
    It's about trust. The trust simply isn't there, especially given if it were technology that needs to be "explained". We're living in an era of fear now in HK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiaque:
    It's about trust. The trust simply isn't there, especially given if it were technology that needs to be "explained". We're living in an era of fear now in HK.
    You do realise that the authorities can track your movements right now? Legally, easily and you will have no idea it is being done?

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