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  1. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrgoodkat:
    They should restrict hospital beds to people requiring medical attention and the quarantine facilities to confirmed cases not requiring medical treatment. Everybody else should just be required to quarantine at home.
    How to distinguish a mild case of COVID (which are >80% of all cases) from just a common cold? I don't think everyone with mild fever and no complications would go to hospital just for the sake of testing?

    Moreover, they'll probably go out to buy groceries, coffee, alcohol, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrgoodkat:
    Not if they keep sending every confirmed case to the hospital and every confirmed contact to the quarantine home. The 300 places in Lei Yue Mun will run out in 3 days that way. They should restrict hospital beds to people requiring medical attention and the quarantine facilities to confirmed cases not requiring medical treatment. Everybody else should just be required to quarantine at home.
    Yeah, great idea to infect the rest of the household who will then go out to buy groceries, go to work, and spread it even further.

    Honestly, could you be more stupid? Its not HK has a shortage of spare hotel rooms at the moment.
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    Social moment: Outside drinking a takeaway G&T
    Risk: Groups gathering without maks getting tipsy
    Suggested Restriction: Ban drinking out doors for 2 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrgoodkat:
    Social moment: everything
    Risk: catch da rona and die
    Suggested Restriction: you are an adult, do whatever makes you feel save/happy. Why do you need the government to tell you to stay away from crowded places and to not share a taxi or a restaurant table with 50 strangers? Get a grip and take responsibility for your life
    Fine for young, healthy who can take that decision for themselves but what about old, more at risk due to pre existing conditions. Yes they can lock themselves down completely (not really fair) bit what if they live with others that need to go to work etc.

    This attitude/approach is a very selfish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:

    Honestly, could you be more stupid?
    Enough! Why the constant need to use such abusive, degrading, belittling language at people. And you are the dad of a 4 year old. Time put you on ignore again, its too annoying to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauljoecoe:
    Enough! Why the constant need to use such abusive, degrading, belittling language at people. And you are the dad of a 4 year old. Time put you on ignore again, its too annoying to read.
    I love the fact you disagreed with the exact same post but called mrgoodtwat selfish instead of stupid. I think he is both but i guess you disagree, lol.

    Anyway, have the courage of your convictions! If you dont want to read what I write, keep me on ignore. Don't take me off and subject me to your trite replies again. Goodbye!

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    Social moment: Queuing
    Risk: People standing next to each other for upto 10 minutes
    Suggested Restriction: All shops, banks and transport services where queuing regularly occurs MUST install 1m markings to encourage social distancing.


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    For Minibus queues if the could use numbered markings up 19 would be handy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauljoecoe:
    Fine for young, healthy who can take that decision for themselves but what about old, more at risk due to pre existing conditions. Yes they can lock themselves down completely (not really fair) bit what if they live with others that need to go to work etc.

    This attitude/approach is a very selfish.
    They should be shielding. Not taking the piss: how is someone at risk being forced to shield unfair, but people low risk being asked to socially distance/lockdown fair? Surely it's just a matter or perspective, there is no universal truth on this one.

    Edit: about them living with others...tricky for sure. No solution. That's an issue that HK society should have solved years back though, really weird all these dozens of people across multi generations shacked up together - stunts their growth IMO. So my sympathy is a bit limited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Social moment: Queuing
    Risk: People standing next to each other for upto 10 minutes
    Suggested Restriction: All shops, banks and transport services where queuing regularly occurs MUST install 1m markings to encourage social distancing.


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    For Minibus queues if the could use numbered markings up 19 would be handy
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    Alternatively supermarkets could train their staff into processing bar codes rather than standing there with idle chit chat

    It would be nigh on impossible to socially distance the queue at Fusion Sai Kung given its layout unless you removed a shopping aisle (feasible).

    The automated machines are no better. They never have any bags because they can’t trust people to confirm bags at payment and if you have any alcohol it’s almost impossible to get a member of staff to come over and validate.

    The Spanish way of tackling this seems to work. Limiting the amount of people in the supermarket at any one time. Limiting the shopping time of those going in and socially distancing the outside queue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    Yeah, great idea to infect the rest of the household who will then go out to buy groceries, go to work, and spread it even further.

    Honestly, could you be more stupid? Its not HK has a shortage of spare hotel rooms at the moment.
    Stupid? Who would be those quarantining at home? - people who had contact with a confirmed case - not people who are confirmed positive themselves.

    Your self-proclaimed powers of deduction letting you down again?

    HK does not have many cases, if the numbers per day increase significantly further to a level where hospitals become stretched with mild cases, then yes quarantining the entire household at home with a likely negative 'contact of a positive' makes sense rather than the implied city wide lockdown which would be a massive over-reaction.

    The numbers of these people is still so low relative to HK's population that the loss of workers is still insignificant (and utterly insignificant compared to a lock-down). Those that could not WFH would be easily replaced and similarly easily funded with govt. lock-down payments for those that could prove prior income.

    But you also raise a good point about hotel capacity - what well thought out legislation (we won't tolerate any margin for stupidity) would you enact to compel hotels to be used as Q. facilities for 'likely negative contact's of a positive'
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