Social moment: Outside drinking a takeaway G&T
Risk: Groups gathering without maks getting tipsy
Suggested Restriction: Ban drinking out doors for 2 weeks
Social moment: Outside drinking a takeaway G&T
Risk: Groups gathering without maks getting tipsy
Suggested Restriction: Ban drinking out doors for 2 weeks
Fine for young, healthy who can take that decision for themselves but what about old, more at risk due to pre existing conditions. Yes they can lock themselves down completely (not really fair) bit what if they live with others that need to go to work etc.
This attitude/approach is a very selfish.
Enough! Why the constant need to use such abusive, degrading, belittling language at people. And you are the dad of a 4 year old. Time put you on ignore again, its too annoying to read.Original Post Deleted
Social moment: Queuing
Risk: People standing next to each other for upto 10 minutes
Suggested Restriction: All shops, banks and transport services where queuing regularly occurs MUST install 1m markings to encourage social distancing.
For Minibus queues if the could use numbered markings up 19 would be handy
They should be shielding. Not taking the piss: how is someone at risk being forced to shield unfair, but people low risk being asked to socially distance/lockdown fair? Surely it's just a matter or perspective, there is no universal truth on this one.
Edit: about them living with others...tricky for sure. No solution. That's an issue that HK society should have solved years back though, really weird all these dozens of people across multi generations shacked up together - stunts their growth IMO. So my sympathy is a bit limited.
Alternatively supermarkets could train their staff into processing bar codes rather than standing there with idle chit chat
It would be nigh on impossible to socially distance the queue at Fusion Sai Kung given its layout unless you removed a shopping aisle (feasible).
The automated machines are no better. They never have any bags because they can’t trust people to confirm bags at payment and if you have any alcohol it’s almost impossible to get a member of staff to come over and validate.
The Spanish way of tackling this seems to work. Limiting the amount of people in the supermarket at any one time. Limiting the shopping time of those going in and socially distancing the outside queue.
Stupid? Who would be those quarantining at home? - people who had contact with a confirmed case - not people who are confirmed positive themselves.Original Post Deleted
Your self-proclaimed powers of deduction letting you down again?
HK does not have many cases, if the numbers per day increase significantly further to a level where hospitals become stretched with mild cases, then yes quarantining the entire household at home with a likely negative 'contact of a positive' makes sense rather than the implied city wide lockdown which would be a massive over-reaction.
The numbers of these people is still so low relative to HK's population that the loss of workers is still insignificant (and utterly insignificant compared to a lock-down). Those that could not WFH would be easily replaced and similarly easily funded with govt. lock-down payments for those that could prove prior income.
But you also raise a good point about hotel capacity - what well thought out legislation (we won't tolerate any margin for stupidity) would you enact to compel hotels to be used as Q. facilities for 'likely negative contact's of a positive'
The situation is obviously getting out of hand, cases are up what, 3000%? since early July.
HK needs to go to hard lockdown, everyone confined to their apartments until the cases come back to levels seen in early July. Only people allowed outside are essential personel like cops(who could be used to deliver food rations to peoples apartments) and ambulance drivers and staff managing the mass graves.
How many people do you think would die as a result of this given the incredibly high number who live in places with no kitchen and others who have no room for food storage and so need to shop every day? At minimum you need all food stops and restaurants to continue to operate takeaway, which requires transport, lorry drivers etc, delivery drivers...what about cage home residents where people can not even stand up? You think locking them in for weeks is feasible? A lockdown would kill more people than the virus is doing currently.
"quarantine at home" involves NOT going to work, NOT buy groceries, NOT going out... that's why it's called quarantine.Original Post Deleted