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    Quote Originally Posted by binance345:
    The problem is that this middle ground does not bring the desired effect. People have to ask what is the intended effect when they implement such measures? Is it to cut off the incoming cases of omicron? I can tell you for sure that this is not possible unless they implement measures as severe as Hong Kong. As long as one case of omicron enters the community, it is only a matter of time before it spreads. And there is a heavy economic price to pay for this kind of ambiguous and wavering policy. Business fears uncertainty, and policy uncertainty delays investment decisions. In the end, you don't achieve the desired results and pay a heavy price.
    IF omnicron were much more transmissible and had a similar hospitalisation rate then it could overwhelm hospitals in some countries. Hence the policies are not, outside of China, about zero covid but about delay as in the old phrase of flattening the curve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MABinPengChau:
    OK, you win the thread...

    (but what about other Greek letters that got skipped like gamma, epsilon...how the hell did we get all the way to omicron...)
    WHO Statement: "Two letters were skipped, Nu and Xi, because Nu is too easily confounded with ‘new’ and XI was not used because it is a common surname and WHO best practices for naming new diseases (developed in conjunction with FAO and OIE back in 2015) suggest avoiding ‘causing offence to any cultural, social, national, regional, professional or ethnic groups’”

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrgoodkat:
    Only skipped Nu and Xi, the last variant was Mu. Gamma and Epsilon just weren't scary enough to make the news cycle.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2
    Thanks! Obviously have NOT been paying attention to all the variants, didn't know we already had gamma, epsilon and a pile of others. Can't wait until we get to "omega" due to "Omega Man" Charlton Heston, lone survivor of some mutant virus (1970's sci-fi movie)...





    Plot: Due to an experimental vaccine, Doctor Robert Neville is the only survivor of an apocalyptic war, with the exception of a few hundred deformed, nocturnal people who are also homicidal maniacs. They blame science and technology for their condition and they see Neville, as the last symbol of science, therefore he must die. Neville, uses everything at his disposal in an attempt to survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdw:
    WHO Statement: "Two letters were skipped, Nu and Xi, because Nu is too easily confounded with ‘new’ and XI was not used because it is a common surname and WHO best practices for naming new diseases (developed in conjunction with FAO and OIE back in 2015) suggest avoiding ‘causing offence to any cultural, social, national, regional, professional or ethnic groups’”
    Mu is a way more common surname than Xi
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    Last edited by Tom007; 29-11-2021 at 02:30 PM.

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    https://www.thestandard.com.hk/break...tourists-entry

    Seems like most countries are going back to the travel restrictions again. Never ending cycle it seems. I assume every year there will be 1 or 2 new variants.

    New variant -> tighten or restrict travels -> vaccination/lowered infection rate -> 'discuss" possibility of relationations -> New variant ->tighten or restrict travels ->.....

    GG

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.YU:
    Do you think the covid will be more problematic if more HIV patients catch it? Just more problematic for the individual or potentially new mutations? I think I am reading your message incorrectly, but it sounds like HIV and Covid could create a new super HIV virus that spreads in the air! Now that is something terrifying.
    You could substitute HIV patient for partially vaccinated or vaccinated with vaccine that has a poor ability to allow a very high percentage of people to recover quickly. It's the reduced ability to kill off the virus or to suppress it to stop it mutating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    You could substitute HIV patient for partially vaccinated or vaccinated with vaccine that has a poor ability to allow a very high percentage of people to recover quickly. It's the reduced ability to kill off the virus or to suppress it to stop it mutating.
    I understand the issues with Covid and immunocompromised people. My point was, how does the variant make a difference. The initial strain has the same inherent issue for HIV positive people. Unless the new strain is more deadly, I see essentially no difference in the macro view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    IF omnicron were much more transmissible and had a similar hospitalisation rate then it could overwhelm hospitals in some countries. Hence the policies are not, outside of China, about zero covid but about delay as in the old phrase of flattening the curve.
    Given how widespread it is, if cases don't expotentially magnify in the next few days, this might not be as big of a deal as it's being made out to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seirin:
    Given how widespread it is, if cases don't expotentially magnify in the next few days, this might not be as big of a deal as it's being made out to be.
    Apart from trying to digest the shit show of the current press conference

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