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    Quote Originally Posted by D.YU:
    I have seen people go to the hospital over a papercut lol

    One other key point to take note is sinovac. Sinovac is used across China and HK (from what ive seen ~30% of vax is sinovac). If outbreak happens, it acts as double "face" loss. Fail to keep virus out and the fact that sinovac is useless.
    But you then have to ask the question why bother getting vaccinated with Sinovac if the government won't open up with a highly vaccinated population. Failure to then open up is as good as admitting that Sinovac is useless.

    Omicron probably gives the best possible opportunity for Sinovac to be put to the test as it's been shown to be far milder than Delta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by statman:
    But you then have to ask the question why bother getting vaccinated with Sinovac if the government won't open up with a highly vaccinated population. Failure to then open up is as good as admitting that Sinovac is useless.

    Omicron probably gives the best possible opportunity for Sinovac to be put to the test as it's been shown to be far milder than Delta.
    That last sentence does not make sense really. A variant can be both mild and be resistant to a vaccine. In the Philippines there is no reported difference in the make of vaccine and hospitalisation rate. Those hospitalised were either unvaccinated (85%) or vaccinated by whatever vaccine, tested positive for covid on admission for another reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    That last sentence does not make sense really. A variant can be both mild and be resistant to a vaccine. In the Philippines there is no reported difference in the make of vaccine and hospitalisation rate. Those hospitalised were either unvaccinated (85%) or vaccinated by whatever vaccine, tested positive for covid on admission for another reason.
    What I mean is that we already know that the vaccines aren't really that effective at stopping transmission and that Sinovac is at almost 0% efficacy of preventing infection of Omicron. However, Sinovac has been shown to be effective at preventing death and severe disease and therefore as Omicron is much milder and far less likely to cause death or severe illness than other variants, it could be a way to save face for China as not as many people would die as they would if it was Delta running loose.
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    China doesn't want to open up. It has almost no need to. And it is getting domestic brownie points for doing so for the time being. Even if everyone in China was triple vaccinated they still wouldn't open up.


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    Yup, and they will also benefit from this scarcity created in the supply chain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughn.T:
    Yup, and they will also benefit from this scarcity created in the supply chain.
    well they already have with the massive spike in container prices

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByeByeEngland:
    well they already have with the massive spike in container prices
    Why does that benefit China as a whole? It is great for the owners of shipping companies but bad for all their customers, including many Chinese companies.

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    They have just suspended online and distance learning for a week or two for "academic ease", too many staff off sick or in isolation.


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