Immigration acceptance rate does not correlate to where the immigrants would pick as their first choice. It is common knowledge that people in the Greater China would generally select places of immigration/overseas study in this order - US, Canada, Australia, NZ. Obviously US visas are the most difficult to obtain.
I've lived in three continents and as a minority with an accent, I have to say that I experienced far less prejudice in the US than in Europe or Australia. Large countries on many levels tend to have higher tolerance for differences. For however many flaws US has, other countries are likely to have a lot more.
Ideally, if most people were capable of restraining their pride in something they had actually accomplished themselves, such as developing their own true sense of self and self-determination, I wouldn't have any problem with pride. That's assuming that by pride we mean the ideal, virtuous definition of pride, which is a feeling of self-respect and personal worth. There's absolutely nothing wrong with gaining self-respect and a feeling of personal worth from something you've accomplished.
Realistically, however, most people cannot contain their pride and derive it from something they had no hand in. From my point of view, the pride of most people is like a cancer. Once it takes root, it grows into vanity and hubris, arrogance and a feeling of superiority over others. The most blindingly obvious example is national pride. It's abrasive, destructive and counterproductive to the development of humankind as a species.
Last edited by PDLM; 15-07-2010 at 07:52 PM.
PDLM, you continue to ignore others' comment about the much stricter US immigration requirements. If you can't look at this issue objectively, non-defensively and not so insecurely, then there is probably no point discussing further.
I know of no greater fan of Canada than I (or me?), but there is certainly something of a brain drain from Canada to the States. Heck, I even had a friend from Canada who overstayed his visa, and got deported for being an illegal alien.
However, it's irrelevant...
The reality is that the US is still the world's top dog in many ways and some are attracted to that... You and I may not like it but it doesn't change the facts that many do.
I don't think that pride needs to lead to hatred either. I couldn't care less what passport I hold but I do care about my cultural heritage. I think it's sad for example to see immigrants children not speaking their mother tongue, or appreciating their native food, clothing, stories, songs etc... I wouldn't want to live in a world where everyone is the same. It might be more practical or peaceful but it would be boring as hell.
It's pretty hard to quantify what people wants vs the reality of what people end up doing. You are trying to blindly win an argument by hiding behind numbers that don't necessarily reflect the topic of discussion
On that issue I agree, but on issues such as "the USA is the hardest one to get into" it should be possible to provide data to support that. I can't speak for immigration but to get in as a visitor I do know from experience that the USA (and Australia) were the easiest that my (Filipino) wife has tried for. The UK was middling hard, and Europe was really quite hard indeed.
Trying the UK's immigration points calculator I see, for example, that my wife's 3 years of study at a University in The Philippines where the course is taught entirely in English fails the English language test for an employment visa. For the US, as far as I know from members of her family who have done it, the English language requirements for entry are absolutely trivial.