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    Looking worse and worse.


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    Curiouser and curiouser.


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    There was lots of anger and media coverage within China after the milk scandal in 2008. However, even after the arrests, convictions and compensation paid out and pledges that things would change, nobody trusts Chinese made baby milk these days - looks at all the people coming to Hong Kong everyday to buy milk. So, one wonders whether they will be any change in the safety and corruption attitudes within the railways whatever Wen Jiabao says.

    For those without SCMP subscription, google "Censors slap ban on crash coverage" for the story.

    Last edited by drumbrake; 31-07-2011 at 10:24 AM.

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    "[You] are not allowed to publish any reports or commentaries, except positive news or information released by the authorities."
    Maybe they should hire Bryant English to help them write their stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    Maybe they should hire Bryant English to help them write their stories.
    Yes, I would focus on the positives..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoob:
    You couldn't make this shit up.

    This is a textbook example of why representative governnment and a robust private sector is necessary in order for the individual to have any rights or any chance in the face of state power; who now can argue that it is for the 'benefit of the people' that the same small group control all of the arms of government, plus the press, plus the legal system?

    If any of those people here at Geoexpat.com (and they know who they are) still believe that 'state fascism' is an optimal form of government, I would love to hear from them about now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryant.english:
    Yes, I would focus on the positives..
    irrelevant - try focusing on the truth, be it positive or negative!
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    The hand belongs to a rescue worker. The newspaper you quoted just used one picture in a sequence of pictures issued by Xinhua. Ulterior motive? And people believe what the newspaper says without thinking. FYI the safety hat says "China Railway"
    So many people in China generate and spread rumors. Weibo is a huge rumor mill.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    The video I couldn't see at work, but the one I watched fine at home. Plus, the pictures in the Standard... I guess you are ignorant of those too? Or you think the arm isn't a real arm? It's been planted there by "China bashing bubbleheads".


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    New Haven to NYC commute train and Vermonter are abysmal. It is only slightly better than China's green trains.. decades behind China

    Quote Originally Posted by Freetrader:
    Well, look, about the American Amtrack trains, Moving and HKFoot are to some extent correct that the standard trains are terrible in the Mid-West and West Coast. We are I assume referring to long-distance travel here. The reason rail travel doesn't work well in the US is twofold: the US is simply huge, and traveling long distances by train is simply not a good option; secondly, the people who ride trains seem to be rather demographically challenged - the sad thing is that travel by train is probably at least as expensive as traveling by air and far more than by car; yet for some reason certain types of people tend to travel by train.

    That said, for a few extra bucks they have what I would refer to as 'first class' carriages which are quite pleasant and the passenges all have their own sleeping rooms. A few years back I took the Amtrack from Oakland to New Orleans had a great time. The food and accomodations were good; nice dining car, interesting people, all of whom had some time on their hands but unlike those on the 'other cars' it wasn't due to unemployment. Still, being cooped up on a train for three days can get on anyone's nerves and for really long distances it is an absurd way to travel unless you are a frozen pork belly.

    Commuter trains abound in the US on a per city basis; also the East Coast has a pretty integrated network that 'normal' people use - Boston - NY - Washington DC is a commonly used route and I'm sure the passengers on that route are quite normal. Also, note that Boston to Washington DC is considerably farther than from Paris to Frankfurt; so I think, where the distances are similar, train travel is actually quite widely used in the US; however, once you get outside of the Eastern Corridor, the vast distances render trains an impractical way to travel for anyone with options.

    The federal government is a starting to pour some billions into developing a high speed maglev rail network; it probably isn't needed but I'm certainly curious and somewhat hopeful that it might create a real alternative to air travel in places where the distances aren't too significant; for example, the line in California is going to be LA to SF/Sacramento, which is about 350 miles. If the train averages 300kph or so may be competitive with flying (which was supposed to be the idea behind the Beijing-Shanghai bullet train). We'll see.
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