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    The Elephant eventually crushes the Dragon


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    The Indians I know aren't stupid enough to compare between the two. Indian media loves it though.


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    China-bashing and hoping it implodes/collapses is almost a sport in itself among most Western medias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunko8:
    China-bashing and hoping it implodes/collapses is almost a sport in itself among most Western medias.
    For some it's just schadenfreude, sure. But there is a lot of teeth gnashing around the world because a bumpy ride for China means a bumpy ride for the entire world. Believe it or not, there are many who are rooting for China to get their shit together and move forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunko8:
    China-bashing and hoping it implodes/collapses is almost a sport in itself among most Western medias.
    I don't think many people want to see China implode. Most people in Hong Kong has a vested interest in keeping it going for a few more years (until they retire or get a foreign passport for their kids). The gradual liberalisation and adoption of more market orientated systems to make the economy more efficient and hopefully allow China to climb out of the middle income trap appear to have stopped under XI who prefers a more nationalistic approach.

    Everyone understands the progress from the social and economic nadir in the 1970's is probably unparalleled and mightily impressive but most people also recognise that it came at a cost socially, environmentally and more recently through debt burdens for future generations.

    Given the tight control on the press in China the fear is that only the tip of the iceberg is being reported. Having one of the world's largest economies going unstable with an even more highly concentrated political system now in place is not something people should be hoping for. Hopefully China will try again to become a great nation rather than continue to veer towards becoming a powerful nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huja:
    For some it's just schadenfreude, sure.
    There may also be some laughing in the face of adversity - If China goes belly up so does a lot of the other things.

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    From an environmental & human rights perspective, I wouldn't doubt that many millions would like to see the current Chinese leadership fail. What they have done in Tibet and Xinjiang is appalling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Open Casket:
    From an environmental & human rights perspective, I wouldn't doubt that many millions would like to see the current Chinese leadership fail. What they have done in Tibet and Xinjiang is appalling.
    That is the difference. The slow progression to a more liberal pluralistic society has stopped and probably going backwards, so the gradual nomalisation of the country looks less likely. That means many would like to see the party implode and collapse but not the country - but can that really happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    That is the difference. The slow progression to a more liberal pluralistic society has stopped and probably going backwards, so the gradual nomalisation of the country looks less likely. That means many would like to see the party implode and collapse but not the country - but can that really happen?
    Sure, communist party implodes...Uighurs and Tibetans get the foot off their necks and the freedom they deserve, Hong Kong gets Independence. What's wrong with that?

    The alternative is cultural genocide and hanification of Tibet, Xinjiang and Hong Kong no?

    China's Uighurs claim cultural 'genocide' - Al Jazeera English
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    About 80 per cent of groundwater in the mainland's major river basins is unsafe for human contact

    The other 20% kills people instantly.

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