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    Chinese Phones & Excessive Data Sharing

    A study of a small number of phones from the top 3 manufacturers....


    "The data we observe being transmitted includes persistent device identifiers (IMEI, MAC address, etc.), location identifiers (GPS coordinates, mobile network cell ID, etc.), user profiles (phone number, app usage patterns, app telemetry), and social connections (call/SMS history/time, contact phone numbers, etc.)," the researchers state in their paper.

    "Combined, this information poses serious risks of user deanonymization and extensive tracking, particularly since in China every phone number is registered under a citizen ID."

    The Register: Surprise! China's top Android phones collect way more info.

    https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/...ones_leak_pii/

    Original paper ..

    https://arxiv.org/abs/2302.01890
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    An interesting bit of info raised here includes that many of these phones are used to track Chinese overseas.

    I don't know and have not read the paper to see if these data leaks exist in phones sold in the EU.


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    Any government around the world has the same ability.
    Only the naive thinks Chinese phones do this.

    'The Register' as a news source? It is a tabloid full of sensationist.

    'arXiv' has no peer review and they accept nearly anything anyone publishes.

    Five Eyes - Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by redslert:
    Any government around the world has the same ability.
    Only the naive thinks Chinese phones do this.
    Abilities are another issue from passing unencrypted data around intentionally.. I would suspect that Apple and Google Pixels don't do this.

    At the end of the argument - no one considers this a scientific paper. it is an observation of what data leaks out of your phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shri:
    Abilities are another issue from passing unencrypted data around intentionally.. I would suspect that Apple and Google Pixels don't do this.

    At the end of the argument - no one considers this a scientific paper. it is an observation of what data leaks out of your phone.
    It is about pre-installed apps. Shitty programming doesn't necessarily mean gov had any involvement.
    If all it takes is for encryption to make you satisfied then those shitty programmers can easily have encrypted the data using government private-keys and still have access.
    Any phone Apple and Google can install apps which pass un-encrypted data.
    It is not dependent on hardware nor brand.

    Again, very naive to think this is a big deal... nothing but tabloid news.

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    Five Eyes is literally a government recognised signed intelligence agreement that you can find on government websites. LOL
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    @shri how's ur Poco going? Mine is garbage. Never again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankshaft:
    @shri how's ur Poco going? Mine is garbage. Never again.
    Not bad at all - my day to day phone and been dropped a few times (in a bumper case) and its survived.... eyeing the new Pixel range .. hopefully they announce a new 7A this year for < $500. Back to pure android with all those dodgy unencrypted apps as suggested here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shri:
    Not bad at all - my day to day phone and been dropped a few times (in a bumper case) and its survived.... eyeing the new Pixel range .. hopefully they announce a new 7A this year for < $500. Back to pure android with all those dodgy unencrypted apps as suggested here.
    When the 6a was announced last year, I went on ebay - was in the UK at the time - and bought a 'nearly-new' regular 6 for almost exactly the same price...
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