China condemns Taiwan coastguard...

[shri]

Two of the men were later pronounced dead, while the other two are in stable condition.

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Beijing strongly condemned the deaths and called for an investigation and assistance for the bereaved families, accusing the Taiwanese coastguard of using “violent and dangerous methods”.

“We express our deep sorrow and condolences to the families of the drowned,” Zhu Fenglian, a spokeswoman for China’s Taiwan Affairs Office, said in a statement late on Wednesday. “This malicious incident has severely harmed the feelings of compatriots on both sides of the Taiwan Strait.”

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...astguard-chase

[hullexile]

Coast Guard ships using violent and dangerous methods. Now which country would do such a thing?

[chuckster007]

NOT FECKING CHINA COAST GUARD

[Elefant&Castle]

30 years for killing a coastguard - should still be serving; unless he was released for good behavior

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17766167

[hongkongmusic]

What's with the 'harmed feelings'? Just bad translation or they actually speak last like that? Not very powerful from a country that wants to come across as powerful.

[MABinPengChau]

If you are a fisherman, you should know how to swim very, very well. When I trained to become a lifeguard, one of the many activities they had us do was jump in the deep end of the pool, fully clothed in jeans (which drag you down a LOT when wet) sneakers, sweatshirt, flannel shirt, etc. Off the high diving board (like falling off a boat). Then how to get out of your clothes (which tends to be a better idea, at least the jeans and sneakers) use them for a flotation device (this part, not all that successful, but can be done with some effort) and tread water for at least a half hour. My parents were big proponents of water safety, we lived on a lake and maybe a mile from the Great South Bay (then Fire Island and the ocean). They figured we were surrounded by water, let's get them really good at NOT dying when falling off a boat, etc. You would be surprised at how many fisherman do NOT know how to swim...

[hongkongmusic]

If you are a fisherman, you should know how to swim very, very well. When I trained to become a lifeguard, one of the many activities they had us do was jump in the deep end of the pool, fully clothed in jeans (which drag you down a LOT when wet) sneakers, sweatshirt, flannel shirt, etc. Off the high diving board (like falling off a boat). Then how to get out of your clothes (which tends to be a better idea, at least the jeans and sneakers) use them for a flotation device (this part, not all that successful, but can be done with some effort) and tread water for at least a half hour. My parents were big proponents of water safety, we lived on a lake and maybe a mile from the Great South Bay (then Fire Island and the ocean). They figured we were surrounded by water, let's get them really good at NOT dying when falling off a boat, etc. You would be surprised at how many fisherman do NOT know how to swim...

The surprising thing about fishermen in this part of the world, in fact anyone working on boats, it's very rare for them to know how to swim.

[MABinPengChau]

The surprising thing about fishermen in this part of the world, in fact anyone working on boats, it's very rare for them to know how to swim.

Yes, I had pretty much heard about this- and THIS is why they drowned, not because TW LET them drown. They panicked and drowned the minute they hit the water. I mean, you could have been RIGHT NEXT TO THEM, they were STILL going to drown. If you have ever jumped in the water with all your clothes, well, they DO drag you down, very quickly, and if you panic, you are a goner.

[hongkongmusic]

Not knowing how to swim seems to be intergenerational where I've visited and it's directly related to poverty. You're not going to school as a kid and nobody in the community swims although surrendered by ocean.

I've chartered many a boat in Indonesia and Polynesia where the driver's been doing it since a boy, and can't swim.

I'm an avid scuba diver and fisherman on my holidays so hold an interest in this topic.

On the other hand I'm sure you'll find a wealthy family in some landlocked province in China where they all do a mean backstroke!

[GentleGeorge]

Seriously two dead Americans and the world would be at war by now, not second guessing their swimming skills