Taiwan, Dalai Lama, China

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookblogger:
    No, he doesn't -- Taiwan is a sovereign government, as someone else remarked -- and it does him no good to behave as if he needs approval. The Dalai Lama has visited Taiwan several times before, to the anger of Beijing, and the only authority which has the decision on this is Taipei.
    Oh please. Not if the guy is now trying to court favor in Beijing. And he doesn't need their permission, he just needs to take their temperature on it and explain the difficulties involved. Taiwan needs China more than Chna needs Taiwan. Except that China views the whole sovereign country thing as a mistake.

    And, no I don't ask my neighbors who I can invite to my house. But my neighbors don't view my apartment as an historical mistake and want to take it over. Nor do they have hundreds of missiles pointed at my apartment, nor are they slowing buying my apartment piece-by-piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleuth:
    Taiwan needs China more than Chna needs Taiwan.
    Well, that's debatable. China has whipped up its fenqing masses into a nationalistic frenzy for retaking Taiwan because they need an external enemy. As a more mature society, Taiwan has no such need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookblogger:
    Well, that's debatable. China has whipped up its fenqing masses into a nationalistic frenzy for retaking Taiwan because they need an external enemy. As a more mature society, Taiwan has no such need.
    And if the PRC decided, just out of spite, to shut down Taiwanese businesses and stop trade, Taiwan would crash to a sudden halt. Yes the PRC would lso feel some pain, but not nearly to the degree Taiwan would feel, especially if they just turned Taiwanese owned businesses into state owned businesses.
    Which is what I meant, not the military take-over thing. The PRC does need external enemies, but the chances of actual invasion by armed forces seems rather remote. The chances of invasion by slowly buying up the whole island are not quite so remote.

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    After the recent foot in mouth incident from his holiness, do we think there is a slavery narrative being concocted by the CCP? Or did the Dalai Lama do that perfectly well by himself pre-1959? The BBC (that well known bastion of the 5 cent army) opines:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-65307709


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    All I’m interested in knowing is if Tibetan “slaves” could complain about their leader in the 1950s vs. whether you can do that in China now without going to the gulag for a “proper comparison” across different centuries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GentleGeorge:
    After the recent foot in mouth incident from his holiness, do we think there is a slavery narrative being concocted by the CCP? Or did the Dalai Lama do that perfectly well by himself pre-1959? The BBC (that well known bastion of the 5 cent army) opines:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-65307709
    I don't get it. It is historical fact that pre-1959 Tibet was a feudal society and included slaves. Why would it be considered a CCP narrative?

    I've been pointing this out to ingorant westerners for years. One bad action (Chinese invasion) doesn't negate another bad action (Tibet before China went in).

    Getting tongue sucked by a little boy. Not a great look for western liberal's favourite holy person. Then again, could argue he fits the bill perfectly.