View Poll Results: Should same sex marriage be legal in HK

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  • Overseas same sex marriages should be recognised

    15 7.28%
  • Same sex marriages should be possible in Hong Kong

    103 50.00%
  • Does it matter?

    20 9.71%
  • No, marriage is just for men and women

    68 33.01%
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Should Hong Kong recognise same sex marriage?

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  1. #101

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cho-man:
    others are surprisingly liberal and open when it comes to matters of sex...
    How would you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookblogger:
    How would you know?
    I have sources in HK schools.

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    Oo-er!


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    Quote Originally Posted by kungpaochicken:
    To be honest, same-sex marriage is a relatively minor and "luxurious" issue, just like whether marijuana should be legalized. People don't even have real democracy here. There are too many problems, grade-grubbing education system, low wages, extremely high real estate prices, gap between rich and poor...
    Hmm, can't let this one go after all, this is such top-down paternalistic thinking. Progress in centre-left to left politics applies to economic as well as cultural aspects of life. Fairer economic policies are on the same platforms as marriage equality, anti-discrimination, women's reproductive rights, and other supposedly "politics lite" issues.

    Some of the governments under which marriage equality passed:

    Netherlands - social democrats and liberal coalition
    Belgium - social democrats, greens and Flemish liberal
    Canada - liberal
    South Africa - African National Congress
    Argentina - congress: left and centre-left coalition: president: Justicialist
    Portugal, France - socialist
    Ireland - Fine Gael ("progressive centre") and Labour

    Where are the centre-rights? Time to get Freakonomic on the link between "economic freedom" and marriage inequality, and not just sexual mores.

    During the Umbrella Revolution, some of the most visible leaders in the protest were local gay icons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black_bird:
    Hmm, can't let this one go after all, this is such top-down paternalistic thinking. Progress in centre-left to left politics applies to economic as well as cultural aspects of life. Fairer economic policies are on the same platforms as marriage equality, anti-discrimination, women's reproductive rights, and other supposedly "politics lite" issues.

    Some of the governments under which marriage equality passed:

    Netherlands - social democrats and liberal coalition
    Belgium - social democrats, greens and Flemish liberal
    Canada - liberal
    South Africa - African National Congress
    Argentina - congress: left and centre-left coalition: president: Justicialist
    Portugal, France - socialist
    Ireland - Fine Gael ("progressive centre") and Labour

    Where are the centre-rights? Time to get Freakonomic on the link between "economic freedom" and marriage inequality, and not just sexual mores.

    During the Umbrella Revolution, some of the most visible leaders in the protest were local gay icons.
    You missed out the UK. Passed by a centre right government.

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    Hullexile: good point; but, since it is actually a devolved situation where the law doesn't apply across the whole of UK:

    England and Wales: Tories and Lib Dem coalition. The main drive came from Lib Dem party conference and minister of equality; the Tories were hardly committal in their 2010 election platform.

    Scotland: SNP - again social democrats

    Edit: Actually, going into a bit of speculation here ... with Scotland's legislative effort towards marriage equality predating England and Wales, it's worth bearing in mind how Scotland's referendum was in the works when SNP won majority in 2011, and the possibility that gay marriage was one of the subtler cultural factors that motivated the Tories not to alienate Scotland further.

    Last edited by black_bird; 04-01-2016 at 06:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black_bird:
    Hmm, can't let this one go after all, this is such top-down paternalistic thinking. Progress in centre-left to left politics applies to economic as well as cultural aspects of life. Fairer economic policies are on the same platforms as marriage equality, anti-discrimination, women's reproductive rights, and other supposedly "politics lite" issues.

    Some of the governments under which marriage equality passed:

    Netherlands - social democrats and liberal coalition
    Belgium - social democrats, greens and Flemish liberal
    Canada - liberal
    South Africa - African National Congress
    Argentina - congress: left and centre-left coalition: president: Justicialist
    Portugal, France - socialist
    Ireland - Fine Gael ("progressive centre") and Labour

    Where are the centre-rights? Time to get Freakonomic on the link between "economic freedom" and marriage inequality, and not just sexual mores.

    During the Umbrella Revolution, some of the most visible leaders in the protest were local gay icons.
    Aren't gay activists fiddling while Rome burns? . I see Saudi group isis just threw a kid off a roof for being gay . Shouldn't you guys be outside the Saudi consulate or any other Islamic country consulate protesting . ?
    Islamic law seems to be the elephant in the room with the gay community and I just don't understand why .
    Last edited by hongkong7; 04-01-2016 at 08:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkong7:
    Aren't gay activists fiddling while Rome burns? . I see Saudi group isis just threw a kid off a roof for being gay . Shouldn't you guys be outside the Saudi consulate or any other Islamic country consulate protesting . ?
    Islamic law seems to be the elephant in the room with the gay community and I just don't understand why .
    Gay activists can influence to some degree the policies in their own countries. Don't think daesh will be particularly concerned about a group of gays protesting against them in some non muslim country do you?

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    "Saudi group isis"

    Even the Daily Mail has a higher quality of discourse.

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    Wow, 100+ posts on a question that should be easy to answer. Ask yourself this, if your child were gay, wouldn't you want them to feel accepted and comfortable with who they are? To me it's not about marriage, but about acceptance. I can only imagine how difficult it must be to grow up in a world where you have to hide your feelings and pretend to be someone who you aren't. If legalizing marriage helps move society towards full acceptance, breaks down barriers and makes life easier for gays why the hell not let them married?


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