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Perhaps tell us a little more about your lifestyle and concerns/reasons why you feel 91K/month may not be enough. I know a single expat woman (no kids/pets) who rents a 1900+ sf, 3 bedroom with open view in a luxury resort-style complex in the best part of Midlevels that costs more than 80K a month. Something equivalent in the US or UK is likely to cost a lot less. In her case her company pays the rent for her. If you want a similar place then 91K probably isn't enough (assuming 91K includes your housing allowance). Frequent visits to expensive bars and restaurants can set you back quite a bit as well. It really depends on your lifestyle and spending habits. If you are a big spender, even much more than 91K may still not be enough.
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11-09-2010, 09:46 PM #51
Last edited by paenme; 11-09-2010 at 09:50 PM.
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11-09-2010, 11:18 PM #52
I don't think that OP meant to boast, it's just that written words don't convey emotions. 91K is a really good income but one must take into consideration that it's very easy to spend lot's of money in HK. So many temptations...
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11-09-2010, 11:44 PM #53
91K, 150K, 300K, 1mm - it's all relevant to the individual, agreeing with paenme's sentiment, maybe give us some more info as to why you feel that 91K may not be enough? Send me a PM if you feel more comfortable, the information you provide may just add fuel......
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11-09-2010, 11:51 PM #54
"very easy to spend lots of money"? Oh.. the poor boy!
No, his original post was" "My salary is circa HKD 91k per month before bonuses etc and would really like to know if in your opinion a guy can enjoy himself on the above salary."
That is $2k a day (assuming that $1k a day is spent on accommodation - assuming that his accommodation was not paid for by the "etc"!).
If you can't enjoy yourself on that... then there is something wrong (either with the post or with the poster).
He said nothing about hating is job, trying to adjust the HK life or finding new friends.
It is people like him that make locals think all expats are spoiltt a-holes.
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12-09-2010, 12:29 AM #55
The question was a fair one and is RELEVANT TO HIM!!!!
It is all relevant to the individual, if one earns more, then one tends to spend more and 91K may not be enough.... the poor guy has come onto this site in good faith trying to get an answer to his dilemma and has for the most been abused. Have we forgotten to look at others situations objectively???
If one is used to having money, and has always earned more than the average household then that is his/her norm right? Just because it's not yours, don't belittle the next man because it is his/hers, at least add some value and give a fellow human a sensible answer without being rude about it!
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12-09-2010, 02:52 AM #56
Well boohoo... but I don't think it is sympathy that he is after.
It is clear to me that money (or the lack of it) is not his biggest problem. It is also clear from your post that you probably already recognise that. If he just came out and said it, he wouldn't come across as a joker. Money is a means to an end. No amount of money is ever going to be 'enough', but HKD 91,000/month, agree or disagree, more than covers NEEDS. It sorts out far more than mere survival. The rest is down to his wants and desires. If he is unable to satisfy that through his current income, then I am not sure it is sympathy that he deserves?
What the hell does he want from us? Try this on with some of the posters on this board whose household income of not much more than half of the OP's (IIRC) supports a family of four (?), two helpers and a number of pets, which I need not tell you is a heck of a task in a place like Hong Kong.
Sorry but who the hell are you to come barging in here and lecturing US for ridiculing the bleeding ridiculous?
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12-09-2010, 03:50 AM #57
Many people I know make around HK$10,000 a month. And they don't complain. So the OP's post comes across as spoilt, uninformed and distasteful.
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12-09-2010, 08:23 AM #58
I agree that if you are used to having money, or are a professional who has worked for a number of years, that 91k or even higher is a perfectly reasonable salary. I am pretty sure a number of us on this very thread earn this much or higher - my salary survey certainly had a fair percentage of very high responses as well as a mix of medium and very low responses.
However, the problem was not really with the OP's salary, it was with his POST. His post asked for some unspecified help while the only information given was his salary. Firstly, that makes it pretty hard to offer any actual help because we do not know what the problem is. But secondly it presumed that he was only "talking to" people "like him" - that is, expats on high salaries. Frankly - that was very, very naive. This is an open internet site. Who knows who we all are! I've met quite a few people on this site, and the range of people, incomes, jobs, backgrounds, personalities etc is as wide as in Hong Kong generally. We have bankers and DH's and everything in between...... That's what makes the site so useful and interesting. However it does mean that if you come in quoting salary levels that are held by only a tiny percentage (probably less than 1 or 2 percent? not sure) of the people in HK, then by definition a large percentage of people are going to think you are boasting, or trolling (probably more likely on an internet site), or are just plain stupid.
If the OP had sat down and perhaps read a few threads on here first, or thought about what he was doing, he might have written a better post and thus got a better response. Simple really.
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12-09-2010, 10:26 AM #59
Wow!!!
A fellow expat staying in HK that's who I am, I was absolutely apalled at how rude some of these responses were. Surely this is an expat community website, not a witch hunt!
Yes the post was not very clear but maybe someone (it took 52 replies before someone actually did) could have asked some appropriate questions to understand what the issue actually was instead of judging and jumping to conclusions followed by abuse!
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12-09-2010, 02:32 PM #60
Originally Posted by Drunken Master:
