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  1. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by emx:
    Sharks see only in monochrome.
    Nevermind....they don't know what they're missing out on so it doesn't matter. A bit like foreskin..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natfixit:
    Yes, they can. But cobras are more likely to want to swim away from you. Rat snakes can become aggressive if cornered.
    Most snakes are good swimmers that's true, although I don't know how frequently these snakes actually venture out to beaches with plenty of human swimmers (as beaches with shark nets sometimes are on weekends and snakes do tend to be afraid of humans).

    At least it's not true sea snakes (snakes that very seldom or never venture on land), those snakes have the most deadly venom of all snakes and one bite and you are dead.

    Maybe you guys should start worrying about your fellow human before any shark or snake. I've seen locals do stupid and dangerous stuff inside shark nets like spear fishing, fishing or kayaking when there were plenty of fellow swimmers. One careless whack of the paddle or someone hooking the fishing line can cause injuries, sometimes even serious injuries.

    And outside the shark nets, there are those morons on jet-ski who zoom dangerously close to swimmers on the water...
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    These guys ? One woman was hurling a heavy iron weight constantly into the water ( iron attached on a rope ) while the guy kept turning with his boat in circles. They were not amused when I took the photos.

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    Edit:
    The jet ski guys pose the most danger IMHO but that's another story.

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    shark themed ad for feminine hygiene products.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom007:
    These guys ? One woman was hurling a heavy iron weight constantly into the water ( iron attached on a rope ) while the guy kept turning with his boat in circles. They were not amused when I took the photos.

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    Edit:
    The jet ski guys pose the most danger IMHO but that's another story.
    I often see people at sunset fishing for pippis and crabs, early in the morning for fish. There are a few locals who catch seafood to sell in the village, and it appears to be a roaring trade.

    On Lantau beaches, I don't see jet skis, but people fishing keep well away from the nets. If they don't, then the police are called or the lifeguards say something. That's from my observation.

    Jet skis are dangerous. I've read and heard about too many deaths from irresponsible jet skiers who are inexperienced and just drive into swimmers. Some of them have been on the turps. Not just in HK, either!

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    It's off topic but a timely reminder. Still remember this accident. Sorry can't find the date but some of you will know.


    South China Morning Post

    Police probe death of diver off Sai Kung
    From Simon Parry, SCMP



    Friends suspect wealthy bar owner might have been hit by a leisure vessel in a busy bay


    Police have launched an investigation into the death of a diver found unconscious with head injuries in a bay popular with fans of high-speed water sports.


    They are investigating whether bar owner Bjorn Lohse, 51, was accidentally struck by a 'Zapcat' - fashionable dinghies with powerful outboard engines - or another vessel while diving off Lung Ha Wan, near Sai Kung.


    Mr Lohse - who lived with his wife, Barbara, and 13-year-old adopted son Felix in a house overlooking the bay, and owned Le Jardin in Lan Kwai Fong - had gone diving near his yacht, Solitaire, which was anchored 500m offshore.


    A highly experienced diver and sailor, Lohse left a marker buoy to alert vessels to his presence, but it is believed a Zapcat or another vessel may have struck him as he surfaced after his dive on April 8.


    Lohse was recovered unconscious with head injuries from the seabed by friends two hours after he began his dive around 3pm.


    The bay was busy with Zapcats, a jet ski and other vessels.


    Lohse's distinctive, 100-year-old yacht, which has been in the family for nearly 40 years, was a popular meeting place for Zapcat owners and other friends when it was moored in the bay.


    Although police are still investigating the death, the tragedy has raised concerns among the wealthy and tight-knit expatriate community living around the bay about the use of the Zapcats close to shore.


    A dozen of the South African-invented dinghies, which have become hugely popular in the area over the past 12 months, are regularly used on the bay, although a number of other vessels were known to be on the water on the afternoon of Lohse's death.


    'Nobody saw what happened, but we all feel responsible in some way for what has happened,' said one Zapcat owner. 'Bjorn was a lovely guy and Solitaire was a place where everyone would drop by and have a drink when they were out on the water.


    'He was a tremendous character. Bjorn was a quiet man and he might say only eight things in the course of an afternoon, but you'd remember every word he said.'


    He added: 'Nobody knows for sure what happened, but it definitely looks as if he was hit by a vessel of some sort. There may be a case for an exclusion zone close to the shore, although Bjorn was some distance out when this happened.'


    Another resident wrote to the Sunday Morning Post describing Lohse as 'an experienced and very responsible man who knew how to behave in and on the water', and described his death as 'an accident waiting to happen'.


    'The amount of Zapcats and jet skis in Lung Ha Wan has been increasing over the last year, not only causing a high level of noise pollution but also causing serious danger for other people using the bay,' she wrote.


    'The reckless way in which the Zapcat owners speed around the bay is a far cry from nautical behaviour normally demanded when entering a bay. I feel a huge anger towards these people and wonder how many people will have to die before they change their behaviour.'


    Mrs Lohse declined to discuss the incident.


    Terry Floyd, a marine lawyer representing Mrs Lohse, said: 'There is a criminal investigation under way into this incident and it would be inappropriate for me to comment further at this stage.'


    On Wednesday, 11 days after Lohse's death, a police spokesman told the Sunday Morning Post that the incident was being treated as a drowning and that there was no criminal element or any suggestion that he had been struck by a vessel.


    In response to detailed, follow-up questions, however, a revised statement issued the next day said: 'Police are still investigating the case and we will conduct interviews with the concerned parties in the [next] few days.'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoob:
    The ones with fricking laser beams attached should be given a wide berth!
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    What with the lower popularity of shark fin these days and also the ban on commercial trawl nets in HK waters, people are theorizing the sharks are making a come back with the abundance of food?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom007:
    It's off topic but a timely reminder. Still remember this accident. Sorry can't find the date but some of you will know.


    South China Morning Post

    Police probe death of diver off Sai Kung
    From Simon Parry, SCMP



    Friends suspect wealthy bar owner might have been hit by a leisure vessel in a busy bay


    Police have launched an investigation into the death of a diver found unconscious with head injuries in a bay popular with fans of high-speed water sports.


    They are investigating whether bar owner Bjorn Lohse, 51, was accidentally struck by a 'Zapcat' - fashionable dinghies with powerful outboard engines - or another vessel while diving off Lung Ha Wan, near Sai Kung.


    Mr Lohse - who lived with his wife, Barbara, and 13-year-old adopted son Felix in a house overlooking the bay, and owned Le Jardin in Lan Kwai Fong - had gone diving near his yacht, Solitaire, which was anchored 500m offshore.


    A highly experienced diver and sailor, Lohse left a marker buoy to alert vessels to his presence, but it is believed a Zapcat or another vessel may have struck him as he surfaced after his dive on April 8.


    Lohse was recovered unconscious with head injuries from the seabed by friends two hours after he began his dive around 3pm.


    The bay was busy with Zapcats, a jet ski and other vessels.


    Lohse's distinctive, 100-year-old yacht, which has been in the family for nearly 40 years, was a popular meeting place for Zapcat owners and other friends when it was moored in the bay.


    Although police are still investigating the death, the tragedy has raised concerns among the wealthy and tight-knit expatriate community living around the bay about the use of the Zapcats close to shore.


    A dozen of the South African-invented dinghies, which have become hugely popular in the area over the past 12 months, are regularly used on the bay, although a number of other vessels were known to be on the water on the afternoon of Lohse's death.


    'Nobody saw what happened, but we all feel responsible in some way for what has happened,' said one Zapcat owner. 'Bjorn was a lovely guy and Solitaire was a place where everyone would drop by and have a drink when they were out on the water.


    'He was a tremendous character. Bjorn was a quiet man and he might say only eight things in the course of an afternoon, but you'd remember every word he said.'


    He added: 'Nobody knows for sure what happened, but it definitely looks as if he was hit by a vessel of some sort. There may be a case for an exclusion zone close to the shore, although Bjorn was some distance out when this happened.'


    Another resident wrote to the Sunday Morning Post describing Lohse as 'an experienced and very responsible man who knew how to behave in and on the water', and described his death as 'an accident waiting to happen'.


    'The amount of Zapcats and jet skis in Lung Ha Wan has been increasing over the last year, not only causing a high level of noise pollution but also causing serious danger for other people using the bay,' she wrote.


    'The reckless way in which the Zapcat owners speed around the bay is a far cry from nautical behaviour normally demanded when entering a bay. I feel a huge anger towards these people and wonder how many people will have to die before they change their behaviour.'


    Mrs Lohse declined to discuss the incident.


    Terry Floyd, a marine lawyer representing Mrs Lohse, said: 'There is a criminal investigation under way into this incident and it would be inappropriate for me to comment further at this stage.'


    On Wednesday, 11 days after Lohse's death, a police spokesman told the Sunday Morning Post that the incident was being treated as a drowning and that there was no criminal element or any suggestion that he had been struck by a vessel.


    In response to detailed, follow-up questions, however, a revised statement issued the next day said: 'Police are still investigating the case and we will conduct interviews with the concerned parties in the [next] few days.'
    http://www.scmp.com/article/594065/s...s-inquest-told

    This was in 2006 (sorry the inquest is in 2007, but the accident was in 2006), apparently his friend was driving the zapcat and also thought he hit something but then the coroner decided that the injuries were not consistent with them?

    But there was another incident a year or two ago where another man was killed by a speedboat towing wakeboarders near a beach.
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