Last edited by muse07; 22-11-2008 at 05:21 PM. Reason: couldn't be bothered now
What's happening on here.
Where's the gleam-in-the-eye, yet thoughtful, banter of different views - and experiences?
Not saying that everything fleetingly shared must be pleasantly "entertaining", but why this intensifying CLOUD?
Keep seeing the absurb bits of life - and of oneself - for what it is... And roll with the blows
No I will not apologise. SD may be a very nice person to you but from her previous posts on other threads as well as this one she does seem to have a strong personal dislike for women from SE Asia. That's her right of course. However, when she makes derogatory comments in public then I have the right to challenge her. For example why did she feel the need to lump DHs and working girls in the same group? Do you not think that many DHs would find that offensive? Or do you think the feelings of DHs are not worth the same consideration as a nice middle aged white expat? I am sorry that you consider this childish, but I do not like people who make generalised value statements based on race or colour. Its just the way I was brought up - to treat all people as individuals deserving of respect until they, as individuals not race, nationality, culture, wealth, money, class, occupation whatever show me otherwise - be they working girls, DHs, street cleaners, brain surgeons, millionaires, poverty stricken, highly educated, completely uneducated. I do not think you, or SD, value people the same way so end of conversation really.
Anyway, Hull, you might consider that you're the only grown up here and act wisely according to your age
I do respect the DHs, especially those with a degree, for taking a job with such a low status in order to help people they have to leave behind for doing so. And, in most cases, this is just because of where they were born. Heck, I strongly doubt I'd be sitting here studying if I had been born in the Phils, or in Mexico, or in India. We just got lucky.
Anyway, noone asked you to be impressed with their degrees. You are perfectly right to treat them just the same as someone from Bolton U. That was all that Hull originally said - accept that they have an education that allows you to have a decent conversation with them (you question this when meeting people from Bolton U?) You were the only one bickering about the "impressed" part.
OK - so you both objected to SD lumping sex workers with domestic helpers. I think all that did was highlight that you clearly believe that sex workers are "below" DH's - how is that fair to sex workers - who are probably also doing this job to support relatives etc etc. Perhaps SD does not think that sex workers are lowly and hence did not realise you would take it as a slur - it's YOUR interpretation, not hers.
Anyway, having met her, seeing you guys describe her as "white and middle aged" is, frankly, hilarious.
come on, don't go all school yard here i don't think lowly of working girls - well. At least i'd say i don't think i think low of them, although th thought of dating one feels a bit arkward. But the point is that calling someone's wife a former hooker is commonly agreed as a severe insult. Calling her a former dh - much less so. And i don't see where hull calls her white and middle aged- i'd say he refers here to the level of respect a dh should get, not to scotchdrinker. And on need to use plural - i made on assumptions about sd, for all i know she might be a bloke.
Anyway, it is nice to see that you're online reading this. I feel less miserable if i know i'm not the only one sentenced to spend this night in front of a screen;-)