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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitehorizon:
    tattoos do not make someone a criminal or look like one
    But in some Asian countries they are associated with criminal gangs. Japan is an example par excellence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fth:
    But in some Asian countries they are associated with criminal gangs. Japan is an example par excellence.
    They are but it doesn't mean every asian guy or woman with tattoos is in a criminal gang, that is just poor judgement and it happens every day. Their is a gang in the USA who tattoo tear drops under their eyes for every person they have killed (I think, not really sure)

    In my opinion judging someone by the ink on their skin is the same as judging someone for being a different colour than you. Some people look down at people with tattoos but some people look up to them.

    I have seen a few business men in central on their lunch break either reach up to grab something from the counter to see what appears to be a sleeve of tattoos under their shirts.

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    They are but it doesn't mean every asian guy or woman with tattoos is in a criminal gang, that is just poor judgement and it happens every day.
    Indeed true, but it does not mean that I would be showing off tatt's to clients in a Japanese boardroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitehorizon:
    They are but it doesn't mean every asian guy or woman with tattoos is in a criminal gang, that is just poor judgement and it happens every day. Their is a gang in the USA who tattoo tear drops under their eyes for every person they have killed (I think, not really sure)

    In my opinion judging someone by the ink on their skin is the same as judging someone for being a different colour than you. Some people look down at people with tattoos but some people look up to them.

    I have seen a few business men in central on their lunch break either reach up to grab something from the counter to see what appears to be a sleeve of tattoos under their shirts.

    You have not lived in Japan before, then...

    Quite a few places like public bath houses and pools, most of them have signs up, banning tattooed people. They take this so seriously that Yakuza members who have ignored this ban, have been jailed for the offence.

    It doesn't matter what us Geijin think, they have their cultural values / rules, and we have ours. It shouldn't be made an issue of a right, it is just a matter of cultural difference and perspective. Tattoos will become more accepted as the older generation who still follow the Meiji govt thinking, die off.

    If you research as to why they banned tattoos in the first place, you can sort of see their logic, which I do happen to agree with. They managed to achieve their societal goals as a result, from being a divided feudal nation, to becoming a united nation with a central govt. Banning the tattoo helped remove visual identification, ie societal/clan differences.
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    Another example is if you watch Japanese cartoons the characters will have four fingers and a thumb unlike most US cartoons which will have three. This is also due to a criminal linkage.


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    so back to the topic, your friend can get in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitehorizon:
    tattoos do not make someone a criminal or look like one
    Well I wasn't actually expecting him to walk through the airport in a prison jumpsuit either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitehorizon:
    They are but it doesn't mean every asian guy or woman with tattoos is in a criminal gang, that is just poor judgement and it happens every day. Their is a gang in the USA who tattoo tear drops under their eyes for every person they have killed (I think, not really sure)

    In my opinion judging someone by the ink on their skin is the same as judging someone for being a different colour than you. Some people look down at people with tattoos but some people look up to them.


    I have seen a few business men in central on their lunch break either reach up to grab something from the counter to see what appears to be a sleeve of tattoos under their shirts.
    Except for the fact that tattoos are a personal choice, while color of skin is kind of outside one's control (just don't tell all the people buying skin whitening products or a bunch of business might go bankrupt )

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitehorizon:
    tattoos do not make someone a criminal or look like one
    Perhaps not always but frequently. Some tats are very 'jail specific' and are intended to communicate that the wearer is a tough guy who has done time. There are always gang tattoos, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freetrader:
    Perhaps not always but frequently. Some tats are very 'jail specific' and are intended to communicate that the wearer is a tough guy who has done time. There are always gang tattoos, etc.
    When they have "hate" tattooed across the knuckles or a swastika on their forehead I generally take it that they are not ideal drinking buddies.