HK Media & the cantopop nude pictures

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    HK Media & the cantopop nude pictures

    Don't know if this topic has been touched here before, but I'm amazed by the way how some media are treating the recent "scandal" of nude pictures circualting the net of local canto-pop stars. It's obvious that one star had a hobby of taking photos of his girlfriend of the moment while performing certain acts.

    While glancing these pictures they are clearly not fake at all, and the sheer volume (1300 according to police), would be one amazing technical achievement if these pictures would all be "doctored". Apparently the male singer in case, handed in his laptop for repairs and had these pictures stolen. Police have meanwhile arrested shopkeeper in case.

    But yet when you read anything in the media on this case they all are talking about "the poor victims", "doctored photos", "bogus photos". Can I assume that there's some heavy lobbying going on by the record companies in case?

    One of the article's in case:
    The Standard - Hong Kong's First FREE English Newspaper


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatts:
    Don't know if this topic has been touched here before, but I'm amazed by the way how some media are treating the recent "scandal" of nude pictures circualting the net of local canto-pop stars. It's obvious that one star had a hobby of taking photos of his girlfriend of the moment while performing certain acts.

    While glancing these pictures they are clearly not fake at all, and the sheer volume (1300 according to police), would be one amazing technical achievement if these pictures would all be "doctored". Apparently the male singer in case, handed in his laptop for repairs and had these pictures stolen. Police have meanwhile arrested shopkeeper in case.

    But yet when you read anything in the media on this case they all are talking about "the poor victims", "doctored photos", "bogus photos". Can I assume that there's some heavy lobbying going on by the record companies in case?

    One of the article's in case:
    The Standard - Hong Kong's First FREE English Newspaper
    Well, the owner of the record company in question is rumoured to be part of the HK Mafia, which could be a reason.

    What's gotten on my nerves is how the police are treating this case. They are arresting people without hard evidence ("innocent until proven guilty" does not appear to apply here), warning netizens that any circulation of THE pornographic materials is an offense (and not circulation of "ANY" pornographic materials), and using "only 19 policemen" to solve the case.

    Is Hong Kong that safe nowadays in which celebrity nude images is the only unsolved case for police to handle? There are a ton of pornographic materials on the internet, many I'm sure are uploaded without the subject(s)' permission, but I don't see the poster being arrested.

    All I can say is that Hong Kong has always been an unfair and discriminating society - giving special attention to foreigners (gweilos), treating Phillippinos/Mainlanders as second class citizens, and giving special attention to people of weath/social status.

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    Well, the owner of the record company in question is rumoured to be part of the HK Mafia, which could be a reason.

    What's gotten on my nerves is how the police are treating this case. They are arresting people without hard evidence ("innocent until proven guilty" does not appear to apply here), warning netizens that any circulation of THE pornographic materials is an offense (and not circulation of "ANY" pornographic materials), and using "only 19 policemen" to solve the case.

    Is Hong Kong that safe nowadays in which celebrity nude images is the only unsolved case for police to handle? There are a ton of pornographic materials on the internet, many I'm sure are uploaded without the subject(s)' permission, but I don't see the poster being arrested.

    All I can say is that Hong Kong has always been an unfair and discriminating society - giving special attention to foreigners (gweilos), treating Phillippinos/Mainlanders as second class citizens, and giving special attention to people of weath/social status.


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    >> Hong Kong has always been an unfair and discriminating society

    I challenge you to find a society where everyone is equal in the eyes of the law.


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    Quote Originally Posted by princesswombat:
    ...What's gotten on my nerves is how the police are treating this case. They are arresting people without hard evidence ("innocent until proven guilty" does not appear to apply here...

    All I can say is that Hong Kong has always been an unfair and discriminating society - giving special attention to foreigners (gweilos), treating Phillippinos/Mainlanders as second class citizens, and giving special attention to people of weath/social status.
    Fair comment... about the extent police resources have been employed to tackle this "scandal", which has been made TOO great a deal of - courtesy of mostly tabloid media feeding the public's momentary zeal for the latest hot sordid gossip.

    Not so sure about your second critical point though... Sounds a bit like blanket labelling of all "HK society".

    Yes, regrettably, various forms of "discrimination" as mentioned, exists on or just under the surface... in even well-developed, so-called "progressive" societies. Hm, wondering if you're suggesting that HK's somehow WORSE?

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    Is pornography scandalous?

    I would have liked to further the "Edison Chen - your say" thread to talk about my point of view on pornography. Some interesting comments were being raised about the Ted Bundy video on that particular thread.

    I have found a topic titled, "Real Men Don't Go To Strip Clubs/Look at Porn, Ladies!" I am curious to see how this is swallowed in light of the poll on Edison Chen - your say.

    Is the Hong Kong media right to scandalize this event? Is pornography scandalous?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sera:
    Not so sure about your second critical point though... Sounds a bit like blanket labelling of all "HK society".?
    OK, you're right, I did go a little overboard with the blanklet labelling. But I have had my share of discrimination during my 3 years in Hong Kong, so I guess that's where it came from.

    Quote Originally Posted by sera:
    Yes, regrettably, various forms of "discrimination" as mentioned, exists on or just under the surface... in even well-developed, so-called "progressive" societies. Hm, wondering if you're suggesting that HK's somehow WORSE?
    Actually, I am suggesting that HK's discrimination is worse, but mainly when it comes to self-discrimination. I know that discrimination exists in all corners of the world, but I have yet to encounter a culture that self-discriminates like HK's does.

    As for the forms of discrimination, it still exists in HK. It may not be as bad as certain countries where you are beat up on the streets (which I've personally experienced before), but sometimes you don't need to throw punches and kicks to tell a person they're different in a not-so-good way. And when the government comes up with an "anti-racism" law, but westerners are mostly exempt from it? It's different when the government supports discrimination too.

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    The Ted Bundy interview wasn't about pornography per se it was about violence in both everyday films and television and of course the portrayal of sexual violence in pornography that has become more popular over the past few years. So it is unfair to paint all pornography with the same brush.

    Pornography in various forms has been around since there were tribes who could draw, paint or sculpt. Even in the modern day pornographic pictures / films have been made since day 1 of camera slides / film. It's not scandalous, it's something that will always be around.

    In regard to what's happened recently, well a man and a few consenting women got together and took pictures of their sexual exploits. No different to, and I will hazard a guess here, a few hundred thousand people around the world who have done exactly the same. Difference being they are famous, well, limited to HK that is. Certain newspapers are blowing it out of all proportion with The Standard being amongst the worst. This has happened a few time in the west with "international stars" and they have just got over it.

    The biggest scandal that I can see is the 8 weeks the police have to keep the computer technician they have yet to prove is responsible for these pictures seeing light of day in the first place. That many pictures have been released since his arrest seems to make them look a little hasty in acting the way they have with this guy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dean-dzai:
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    Is the Hong Kong media right to scandalize this event? Is pornography scandalous?
    The Hong Kong media is only scandalizing this event because it involves celebrities. Debating whether pornography is scandalous or not is fultile in this aspect, IMO.

    That's Hong Kong media - I love how in the local newspapers during Chinese New Years, the front pages were splashed with this scandal, but meanwhile the snowstorm in China was put aside to the last page of the newspaper.

    Because NOTHING is more important than celebrities in Hong Kong - not Chinese New Year festivities, not natural disasters in HK's motherland, not the drop in the stock market on the last day of the year of the pig....

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