Hong Kong tops the most intolerant of other races list

[Skyhook]

Hong Kong people are one of the most accepting people on this planet, PERIOD. Matter of fact, Hong Kong people are extra nice to people with white skin, almost like an inverted form of racism. So what are the people of this forum complaining about?

I don't disagree with this point in the present tense, but it wasn't always like that. Your point about violence, or acts of nastiness have happened in the past, even toward the gwei lo, or should I say, aimed at the wife, to unhinge the Gweilo, freaking the wife out, so they end up all packing their bags, leaving the big lychee asap.

One of the best methods to get rid of a foreigner in a village, was to throw an open bag of venomous snakes through the kitchen window during the very early hours of the morning, back in the day .

So o.k, they tend not to do things like that these days, but there was a time when they did.

[solidops]

There you go....can't get away from your own prejudices. All others except for the 'whities' I suspect HK'ers to be intolerant.........

You really don't see how whites are treated better in Hong Kong? For starters, the older generation educated during English occupation Hong Kong are diehard Hong Kong independents. They are so against China re-taking Hong Kong they were eventually labeled "British dogs". Being loyal to the people who once sold drugs to your people should be a sign of how whites are treated in Hong Kong.

Maybe you don't see how whites are treated better, maybe because you expect this sort of treatment no matter what. You should see how the cantonese treat each other sometimes.

You really can't compare race relations in the US to that of Hong Kong. It is comparing apples to oranges. Hong Kong is 96% ethnic Chinese..almost all the police are Chinese, all the legislators are Chinese....it's nothing like the US where people of different ethnicities live and work side by side in all sectors of society.

Hongkies don't have to deal with race in the way a multi-cultural country does.

It's not apples to oranges. During the Jim Crow era, it was overwhelmingly white or black in America. During that time, almost everyone in power was a white male - cops, lawmakers, etc. And yet African Americans were still subject to racist and violent attacks and were unequally segregated. During that time Americans were highly intolerant, and they acted upon it violently. Hong Kong is overwhelmingly Chinese, and nobody here violently attacks others because of their race. So how can you call Hong Kong people "intolerant"?

I don't disagree with this point in the present tense, but it wasn't always like that. Your point about violence, or acts of nastiness have happened in the past, even toward the gwei lo, or should I say, aimed at the wife, to unhinge the Gweilo, freaking the wife out, so they end up all packing their bags, leaving the big lychee asap.

One of the best methods to get rid of a foreigner in a village, was to throw an open bag of venomous snakes through the kitchen window during the very early hours of the morning, back in the day .

So o.k, they tend not to do things like that these days, but there was a time when they did.

I would take a bag of freakin' snakes over the following:

- Being forced to take drugs
- Being declared war upon when refused to take drugs
- Having a chunk of land taken after losing said war with advanced country
- Be forced to respect winners of war after they take over all positions of power in that chunk of land.

Imagine if the British had made racist remarks towards the Chinese and throw bags of snakes into their windows instead of declaring two wars against them? Imagine? What a world this would be!

However, that's history, you can't change it, all we can do is deal with our circumstances. However I think it is strange, wrong & insulting be labeled as "intolerant" considering the history of Hong Kong.

[kmn911]

The US has alot more racial diversity and SHOULD be ALOT more tolerant, but in fact its quite the opposite.

This kid can sing very well, he made no comments about anyone with regards to race/religion/socio-economic class/caste/etc But still he is targeted because he is minority in the America
those comments are just super vile.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/06...-anthem-video/

FYI: the kid is a son of a Navy sailor, born and raised in Texas

[closedcasket]

You can find instances of racism in every country and sadly I don't think that will ever change. But rather than highlighting one incident, you should look at the overall picture. And in my lifetime, I am amazed at how far the US has come in regards to equal rights...both in terms of race and gender issues and acceptance of lifestyle choices.

One thing that speaks volumes about the US as a whole, is the fact they elected Barack Obama. You can say that he is half black/half white...but honestly by looking at him he is perceived as an African American and on top of that his name is Barack Hussein Obama!! I am still shocked (and proud) that Americans looked beyond race (and name) and elected the best person for the job.

African Americans only make up only 12% of the population in the US and about 13% of the electorate (in the 2008, 2012 elections)

Anyway, I don't know too many other countries that would elect a President whose race and skin color are only reflected by 13% of the electorate.

[solidops]

You can find instances of racism in every country and sadly I don't think that will ever change. But rather than highlighting one incident, you should look at the overall picture. And in my lifetime, I am amazed at how far the US has come in regards to equal rights...both in terms of race and gender issues and acceptance of lifestyle choices.

One thing that speaks volumes about the US as a whole, is the fact they elected Barack Obama. You can say that he is half black/half white...but honestly by looking at him he is perceived as an African American and on top of that his name is Barack Hussein Obama!! I am still shocked (and proud) that Americans looked beyond race (and name) and elected the best person for the job.

African Americans only make up only 12% of the population in the US and about 13% of the electorate (in the 2008, 2012 elections)

Anyway, I don't know too many other countries that would elect a President whose race and skin color are only reflected by 13% of the electorate.

Closedcasket, have you ever lived in the US? Are you from the US? Because from this post it doesn't seem so.

Yes, the US is coming closer to equal rights for all. Black people can now look at white women without being murdered! Japanese people don't have to be sent to internment camps anymore!

However, you have this jaded view of racial relations in America. You should've seen the tweets for the movie "Olympus Has Fallen" for example...most of the tweets contained racial epithets, slurs and threats of violence.
Or hell, do a twitter search for the hashtag n-word.

Also..." I am still shocked (and proud) that Americans looked beyond race (and name) and elected the best person for the job."

Now THIS is just funny! You should've taken a walk on Broadway or Jamaica Ave...street vendors EVERYWHERE selling "Obama 08" pins. Almost all the black kids in my high school had one. My roommate from Connecticut supported Obama because he was black.

Now, I don't have a problem with this, I wanted Obama to win, but you've gotta be an out of touch Brit if you really think Americans looked beyond race! Also...did you see all the uproar about state succession? Americans looking beyond race! HA!

Oh, and take a look at this!


Final edit - and people call HONG KONGers for being intolerant!

[closedcasket]

Ok, you win. How can I possibly argue against a point backed up by random Facebook quotes?

[solidops]

Ok, you win. How can I possibly argue against a point backed up by random Facebook quotes?

Ha ha, very funny.

Social media is a good example (unless you REALLY want cited examples of discrimination in America...) to use in this case because these are the personal thoughts of dozens of real people in America...

Besides, if you want to argue about Americans being totally tolerant, we wouldn't have an argument because you'd be completely wrong.

Pay a visit to some of NYC's most segregated neighborhoods, and notice how people segregate themselves according to race...Russians in Brighton Beach, Blacks in Southside, Latinos in Corona, Asians in Flushing, WASPs in Long Island, Hasidic Jews in Borough Park, etc. There are enclaves of people that barely speak english and I doubt they'd be happy to admit they want neighbors of other ethnicities moving next to them in their heavily segregated neighborhoods. Would you call these immigrants intolerant for wanting a community of people with whom the share the same culture in this new, big city?

That's just another small example of intolerance in America...you barely hear of this kind of stuff in Hong Kong yet the article (dailymail is a terrible newspaper) insists that Hong Kong tops the world's list pf the most intolerant people.

What a BS article...

[kimwy66]

Ha ha, very funny.

Social media is a good example (unless you REALLY want cited examples of discrimination in America...) to use in this case because these are the personal thoughts of dozens of real people in America...

Besides, if you want to argue about Americans being totally tolerant, we wouldn't have an argument because you'd be completely wrong.

Pay a visit to some of NYC's most segregated neighborhoods, and notice how people segregate themselves according to race...Russians in Brighton Beach, Blacks in Southside, Latinos in Corona, Asians in Flushing, WASPs in Long Island, Hasidic Jews in Borough Park, etc. There are enclaves of people that barely speak english and I doubt they'd be happy to admit they want neighbors of other ethnicities moving next to them in their heavily segregated neighborhoods. Would you call these immigrants intolerant for wanting a community of people with whom the share the same culture in this new, big city?

That's just another small example of intolerance in America...you barely hear of this kind of stuff in Hong Kong yet the article (dailymail is a terrible newspaper) insists that Hong Kong tops the world's list pf the most intolerant people.

What a BS article...

Daily Mail just reprinted an article from the Washington Post - http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ant-countries/

And on the subject of enclaves, this is a worldwide thing, go visit Bradford in the UK sometime.

This isn't a pissing competition over who is the most racist. Nobody is arguing that the US is tolerant, or Australia is tolerant, or where ever you like to mention. Intolerance of other cultures is a world-wide thing. It is less hidden here in Hong Kong though, hence why 29% of HKers replied that they wouldn't want other ethnicities living next to them.

Hong Kong institutionally and legally allows discrimination on the basis of nationality. And that carries through to an open acceptance in the general population. US openinly rejects discrimination, and works towards improving the tolerance in the general public and in government. Might not be 100% effective, but at least it tries.

[solidops]

Hong Kong institutionally and legally allows discrimination on the basis of nationality. And that carries through to an open acceptance in the general population. US openinly rejects discrimination, and works towards improving the tolerance in the general public and in government. Might not be 100% effective, but at least it tries.

So tl;dr Hong Kong is racist and intolerant?

The US rejects racism because it has an extensive history of racism and as a multicultural nation it has moved forward, and they have enacted laws in an attempt to stop racism.

There is no record of racism in Hong Kong because historically (or before the English occupation) Chinese are the majority so nobody here discriminated each other based on race.

Hong Kong does not have anti-racism laws as strong as the US as mentioned above and because Hong Kong was once a colony of a foreign power. If you've studied any colonialism in college, you'll know European colonialism in the 19th century had undertones of racial superiority. Now if you really want me to prove this I can cite some basic Robinson Crusoe (groan). The Chinese were discriminated against by the English. How does one enact laws against racism, when the people who were in power set no example to follow? The British are credited with founding modern Hong Kong, and one thing the English never taught was "no racism" because they were the biggest perpetrators of it in Hong Kong.

So, in conclusion - Hong Kong people are pretty tolerant. Sure we might not want some people as our neighbors but that's garden variety discrimination. But one things for certain, we don't go selling other people drugs and declaring wars on them because we don't like them. Never have, never will. End of.

[usehername]

There is no record of racism in Hong Kong because historically (or before the English occupation) Chinese are the majority so nobody here discriminated each other based on race.

Wow. Just wow.