Hong Kong tops the most intolerant of other races list

[solidops]

No one is saying that hk is the only racist place on earth.

But ask any brown skinned person in hk if they have experienced racist behaviour here and most (I hesitate to say 'all', but it wouldn't surprise me) will say yes.

I'm sorry but are you brown? if not why does this concern you? have you felt any racism directed at YOU?

let me guess - you're not adapted to the local culture because you couldn't be bothered to learn cantonese and you don't bother hanging outside your expat circle so you've felt alienated from the locals and you are now trying to label hong kongers as "racist" and "intolerant" because you were the one who alienated the local populace in the first place by not learning their culture?

I've never heard of racism against whites/expats that knew the local language...take a hint?

It's like bringing a windows laptop to a workplace full of Macs, don't expect to fit in...

[drumbrake]

I'm sorry but are you brown? if not why does this concern you? have you felt any racism directed at YOU?

Why does it matter if a person is brown or not? If there has been racism, it surely should be condemned. You do not need to be directly affected by something which is wrong to speak out against it.

[closedcasket]

No one is saying that hk is the only racist place on earth.

But ask any brown skinned person in hk if they have experienced racist behaviour here and most (I hesitate to say 'all', but it wouldn't surprise me) will say yes.

Judging by most posts on the topic of racsim in Hong Kong...the problem is denial and lack of concern. For a society to improve, it first must admit there is a problem.

The US still has a lot of racism that is forsure, but they acknowledge it...look for it..the media is quick to publish it, and people want to talk about it. Racism is pushed into the forefront in the US.

Hong Kong would prefer to pretend it doesn't exist. When is the last time you opened up the newspaper and read an article about a helper who was forced to work on her day off? When was the last time you turned on the TV and heard a story about a Nepalese couple who couldn't rent a flat due to their ethnicity? When was the last time heard a story about how an Indian couple had trouble getting their kids into school due to the color of skin?

Racism exists everywhere...the least racist countries make a point to actively search out and publicise racist activities...where as Hong Kong tries to ignore/hide the problem.

[virago]

I'm sorry but are you brown? if not why does this concern you? have you felt any racism directed at YOU?

let me guess - you're not adapted to the local culture because you couldn't be bothered to learn cantonese and you don't bother hanging outside your expat circle so you've felt alienated from the locals and you are now trying to label hong kongers as "racist" and "intolerant" because you were the one who alienated the local populace in the first place by not learning their culture?

I've never heard of racism against whites/expats that knew the local language...take a hint?

It's like bringing a windows laptop to a workplace full of Macs, don't expect to fit in...

Huh, so you have to learn your local language to be accepted into hk.... That is Very Tolerant of you.

Sent from somewhere....

[closedcasket]

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Exactly right. But this is to be expected in a situation where almost all the employers/boss are one race and all the employees/helpers are another race.

This is why I have always argued that Hong Kong should use locals as DH's....or at the very least use mainland Chinese. There would be far less abuses (and far more proactive measures in place to prevent abuses) if the people doing the abuse thought that there mother, daughter, sister or aunt could be a helper and exposed to such abuse.

But as it is, the employers can abuse all they want knowing that no one in their family will ever be subject to such abuse.
Can you imagine if an MTR employee had to work 16 hour days/6 days a week?? Or if 20% of the KMB bus drivers were reportedly forced to work on their rest day?? Ummmmm. That would be on the front page of the newspapers and people would be outraged....
No one would say....ahhh, that train station attendant or bus driver chose the job...they could always quit...

[usehername]

I'm sorry but are you brown? if not why does this concern you? have you felt any racism directed at YOU?

Oh dear.

*That's* your counter arguement?

Really?

How embarrasing for you.

[solidops]

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It is none of your business what brown people are experiencing in Hong Kong. You did not care about brown people before this topic so why pretend to care now?! Are you trying to use the case of racism against brown people for your own benefit and try to claim HKers are racist because hong kong people don't give you the time of the day?

[usehername]

It must be so hard to walk with such a chip on your shoulder. Poor you. Diddums

[virago]

Absolutely! You think that is a joke?! You should hear what the Aussies are saying about immigrants from Asia!!!

If I were a Chinese immigrant in melbourne, do you think I would make it by just speaking chinese? Do you think I would be accepted as an equal if I did not speak any english?! Actually forget being an equal, do you think I'd receive any respect at all if I didn't speak any english?! Do you?!?!?!?!

I'm very amused you think you don't need to learn the local language to fit in, I guess that is the horrible inequality between ASIAN and WHITE immigrants!

The difference lies in our labels...if I move to AUS to work, I am an "immigrant" however if YOU move to the AUS to work, you are an "expat"

You are SO out of touch with racism and intolerance in this world and I can 100% guarantee that is because you are white - you know absolutely nothing about intolerance and the subject at hand! End of discussion.

The official language is English in Australia if you don't already know. Of course you won't get anywhere without it!

And what are the official languages in hk?

Having lived in China for a number of years and speak mandarin I know what it is like being a minority so you don't need to preach what I do and don't know.

Anyway once you get older and get out from under mummy's skirt you will begin to understand.

Sent from somewhere....

[solidops]

It must be so hard to walk with such a chip on your shoulder. Poor you. Diddums

Nice copout there buddy, keep telling me things I didn't know about myself!

The official language is English in Australia if you don't already know. Of course you won't get anywhere without it!

And what are the official languages in hk?

Having lived in China for a number of years and speak mandarin I know what it is like being a minority so you don't need to preach what I do and don't know.

Anyway once you get older and get out from under mummy's skirt you will begin to understand.

Sent from somewhere....

Is "official language" supposed to mean something? Just because it's an "official langugage" doesn't mean the people here speak it very well or at all. Even if they did, the culture is still Chinese so therefore to truly fit in, it's better to speak Chinese.

Hong Kong is overwhelmingly Chinese; just because you speak english you think it's all you need in HK just because it's listed as an "official language"?

Portuguese is listed as an official language in Macau...do you think people speak it?

And no, just because you've lived in China doesn't mean you know what being a minority is. Have you been discriminated against because of your race? (once again, nobody sitting next to you on the bus doesn't count) Probably not - you haven't lived as a "minority" in China, just as another sheltered expat.

Oh and nice copout about "mum's skirt"...understand what? That I've been discriminated against because I'm Chinese? Or the fact that there is a double standard when it comes to "fitting in" for Chinese and whites when they settle in different countries? Or the fact that western countries are the most vocal about Chinese not attempting to fit in when the same happens in Hong Kong? What do I need to understand?

Just because there's a time difference between you and I doesn't mean you're always right...news flash: experiencing life isn't always about age, buddy.