Hong Kong tops the most intolerant of other races list

[usehername]

...because I am Chinese Australian?

So what? You said we shouldn't care what brown skinned people experience because we're not brown skinned. So why the f should we care what you experienced if we're not chinese australian.

[Eddy Mundo]

Racism exists everywhere...the least racist countries make a point to actively search out and publicise racist activities...where as Hong Kong tries to ignore/hide the problem.

Yes, racism exists everywhere, but I don't know if there is a "least racist" country. It's a different kind of racism, although more subtle. Treating minorities as handicaps or dependents, is not necessarily a "lesser" form of racism.

[justjoe86]

Solid ops you're Australian so why are you claiming to speak for hong kongers? You clearly have a very different background to the average local.

[solidops]

The huge chip, nay potato, on your shoulder seems to be clouding your judgement. You have no idea whether I have experienced racism or not but you're jumping to huge misinformed conclusions on the basis that you've had a tough time as a Chinese Australian and seem to think no-one else has experience of this.

I know quite a few Westerners who are on the receiving end of racism at work right here in HK. Less competent local staff promoted above them because senior management have to be seen to be pro-Chinese. Exactly what you say Asians go through in the West applies to Westerners right here in HK. I've seen some appalling examples of racism (and sexism) at work in HK.

But my actual concern is racism full stop rather than any specific ethnic group's experience whereas you appear to be solely focused on your own ethnic group (or just yourself) and don't really give a damn about anyone else. My boyfriend is black British and wants to move to HK to be with me but I don't think it's fair to put him through the racism he will experience in HK just because of his skin colour. We have both been on the receiving end of racism in Europe (from both the black and white communities) but it's nothing compared to the appalling racism I see HKers dishing out to anyone who is brown or black here.

1. You know a few Westerners who being discriminated against - how many of these westerners speak Chinese? There's a huge difference when someone is trying to adapt to the local culture by learning the local language yet still being discriminated against VERSUS someone who is being discriminated against but does not know the local language. The former is what Asians in Western countries have to face (I have citations for this) the latter is what happens to just about any foreigner and doesn't adapt to the local culture. Refer to the Mac and Windows analogy above.

2. Why would I care about any other race when my race is being looked down upon and I have my own struggle to go through? Would you ask an African American from the last century to fight for equality rights for another minority? This "stop racism for all races" is easy for a white person like you to support because there's no racial struggle for you to deal with - nobody looks down upon whites and oppresses them because of it. White people have been the one of biggest perpetrators of racism for the past century - Apartheid, Opium Wars, European Colonization in Africa & Asia - so it's easy for YOU to say "equality for all" when you're telling your people to "ease up" on the racism while we bear the brunt of it all. What would you know about racism?

3. I'm glad your black british BF is moving here, but please for the love of god don't bring that rubbish UK Grime over here. I may be stereotyping against him here but I have to say it - hip hop from the UK is terrible and cringe worthy. Only 1 country has done hip hop right in this world and it's not the english. Ok now back on topic.

4. I've been an Asian American and Chinese Australian, and I can say you, a white woman, would not have problems in either country that I would face. You didn't get the job? Time for a lawsuit. I didn't get the job? Tough luck bro, visa problems. In fact, your boyfriend probably has an easier time finding a job than I do because of his race. He has the NAACP backing him up. What do I have? Bruce Lee? Jackie Chan?

5. "I've seen some appalling examples of racism (and sexism) at work in HK." Oh really? That's great. Browse through and see if you find your coworkers experience any of the following and let me know: http://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-2011-5/

Sounds like someone wishes he was born white

Out of the dumb statements you've made in this thread, this is the dumbest. Forreal.

[ltallenyan]

Can't agree more with it. I've been here for 4 yrs. Coz I'm partly Chinese, I've been involved in some ridiculous and unpleasant experience with local Chinese. Water under the bridge. That's where we are.

[virago]

Solid ops you're Australian so why are you claiming to speak for hong kongers? You clearly have a very different background to the average local.

He's obviously got a foot in both cultures but more in hk I suppose as he speaks the local language and looks Chinese. Probably couldn't hack it in Australia and had to move here.

I'm sure he has seen his fair share of discrimination and racism against him in Australia.

Sent from somewhere....

[jayinhongkong]

""that until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned; that until there is no longer any first-class and second-class citizens of any nation; that until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes; that until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all, without regard to race -- until that day, the dreams of lasting peace and world citizenship and the rule of international morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained. And also, that until the ignoble and unhappy regimes that hold our brothers in Angola, in Mozambique and South Africa in subhuman bondages have been toppled and destroyed; until bigotry and prejudice and malicious and inhuman self-interest have been replaced by understanding, tolerance and good-will; until all Africans stand and speak as free beings, equal in the eyes of all men as they are in Heaven -- until that day the African continent will not know peace. We Africans will fight, if necessary and we know that we shall win, as we are confident in the victory of good over evil."

Haile Selassie, 1968.

[jayinhongkong]

1. You know a few Westerners who being discriminated against - how many of these westerners speak Chinese? There's a huge difference when someone is trying to adapt to the local culture by learning the local language yet still being discriminated against VERSUS someone who is being discriminated against but does not know the local language. The former is what Asians in Western countries have to face (I have citations for this) the latter is what happens to just about any foreigner and doesn't adapt to the local culture. Refer to the Mac and Windows analogy above.

2. Why would I care about any other race when my race is being looked down upon and I have my own struggle to go through? Would you ask an African American from the last century to fight for equality rights for another minority? This "stop racism for all races" is easy for a white person like you to support because there's no racial struggle for you to deal with - nobody looks down upon whites and oppresses them because of it. White people have been the one of biggest perpetrators of racism for the past century - Apartheid, Opium Wars, European Colonization in Africa & Asia - so it's easy for YOU to say "equality for all" when you're telling your people to "ease up" on the racism while we bear the brunt of it all. What would you know about racism?

3. I'm glad your black british BF is moving here, but please for the love of god don't bring that rubbish UK Grime over here. I may be stereotyping against him here but I have to say it - hip hop from the UK is terrible and cringe worthy. Only 1 country has done hip hop right in this world and it's not the english. Ok now back on topic.

4. I've been an Asian American and Chinese Australian, and I can say you, a white woman, would not have problems in either country that I would face. You didn't get the job? Time for a lawsuit. I didn't get the job? Tough luck bro, visa problems. In fact, your boyfriend probably has an easier time finding a job than I do because of his race. He has the NAACP backing him up. What do I have? Bruce Lee? Jackie Chan?

5. "I've seen some appalling examples of racism (and sexism) at work in HK." Oh really? That's great. Browse through and see if you find your coworkers experience any of the following and let me know: http://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-2011-5/

While I'm not denying there is discrimination against Asian-Americans, I am a HK-born brown guy and I experience lots of discrimination at all levels here, and I notice it a lot more now that I speak Cantonese. People clearing their throats, coughing, using racial slurs, all kinds of stuff when I walk by. I've been looked over for jobs and even told I'm of a lower class than white people, simply because of my race.

For you not to care about another race's experiences means you're part of the problem, not the solution. We could flip it and say we don't need to care about your struggle. You appear to have given up on it since you're back in HK

Not sure why you brought grime up, but the stuff you listen to is junk too

Here's an excerpt about a former high-ranking government official in HK who retired after the handover because he wasn't the right race. Mr Barma has the following initials after his name, which I suggest you look up: GBS, CBE, ISO, JP.

http://books.google.com.hk/books?id=...nsport&f=false

[justjoe86]

He's obviously got a foot in both cultures but more in hk I suppose as he speaks the local language and looks Chinese. Probably couldn't hack it in Australia and had to move here.

I'm sure he has seen his fair share of discrimination and racism against him in Australia.

Sent from somewhere....

True. Judging by his good English, use of word like 'buddy' and references to education he seems to have spent a fair bit of his time out of HK. I'm guessing he's getting defensive due to his family roots which is fair enough but he's definitely looking at HK cultre through rose tinted spectacles. Being part Australian probably adds to his obvious hatred of 'poms' too, wouldn't you say so V? :P

[usehername]

I'm guessing his english is much better than his canto, much to his annoyance...