Hong Kong tops the most intolerant of other races list

[Raccon]

You have never been the victim of true racism. Or you wouldn't attribute racism to the list above.

Don't move the bar by adding "true". Besides I wouldn't be surprised if your true racism starts out from the racism I mentioned. For example, take away the law that says companies in the US should not discriminate based on race when hiring and see what happens. Maybe you should you ask those they won't be hired because of the color of their skin and how they feel about that and when they get abused fighting for equal rights.

But of course they shouldn't try to fight for equality in the first place because it isn't true racism according to you and therefore calling the White employer's racist would really be offensive to them. That of course would be worse than allowing the employers to hire based on their racial preference.

You should be very careful calling other people racists. It's just as offending as being a racist. Even if you are "implying." It also belittles the struggle of those who really had to endure true racism and its impact on their lives, freedom and families.

Right, so we should not condone certain forms of racism because they don't meet your criteria for "true racism". Sorry baby but I am afraid you indirectly support racism with that view but I am not sorry if that offends you.

A preference for who's your drinking buddy should not be a basis for you to determine a whole society and its members are racists.

If I refused to drink with people of a certain race (because of their race) that would make me racist, not them or their society.
If I refused to drink with a particular person of a certain race however it would not make me racist (e.g. if I don't like the guy because of his demeanor, not because I don't like him because of his race).

Do you understand that difference?

[dipstick]

Depends on how you define racism. You could argue that by calling HK/Chinese people racist, you are making a racist statement.

If I had called HK people racist then that indeed could be construed as a racist statement but what I actually said was a large percentage of the HK people are racist.

[closedcasket]

I don't think it is the same but I then I think the difference isn't strictly due to a race issue, it's a class issue also.

They consider Filipinos and Indonesians to be of a lower social class because the majority or them are DH. The opposite is true for whites.

I think it goes further than that, ask most local kids... and they would think that darker skinned Asians are inferior. Many actually associate skin color with actual intelligence.

[Proplus]

Has anyone known a Chinese girl whom had a black boyfriend and took him home to their parents. I have known two. In both cases the family told the girl to dump him or be disowned. In both cases the guy was of a much higher social class than the Chinese family. One was African royalty and one was a wealthy businessman.

I don't buy that lower social class perception crap. It is a simple case of Chinese looking at dark skinned people as lesser humans. Straight racism. You want to see the true colours of non-westernised Chinese families; bring home a black guy.

I do. My friend is in her late 20s and her black BF has been in prison, and is definitely from a lower class than her, but her parents love him to bits.


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[HKITperson]

I think it goes further than that, ask most local kids... and they would think that darker skinned Asians are inferior. Many actually associate skin color with actual intelligence.

And where do you think they base that opinion from?

[Proplus]

I'd put it down to HK people not quite being racist (the majority) but close, because of how defensive they view their own little pocket of identity. Relatively, HK doesn't have a long history, but in that short span of time, it's been under the rule of many other governments. They have their little identity and will fight tooth and nail (or rather bitch down to races) to keep it.

It's not just races HK people deem as a lower class, when the white man's back is turned, there's contempt from the locals.

It's like a passive-aggressive thing they do.



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[HKITperson]

I'd put it down to HK people not quite being racist (the majority) but close, because of how defensive they view their own little pocket of identity. Relatively, HK doesn't have a long history, but in that short span of time, it's been under the rule of many other governments. They have their little identity and will fight tooth and nail (or rather bitch down to races) to keep it.

It's not just races HK people deem as a lower class, when the white man's back is turned, there's contempt from the locals.

It's like a passive-aggressive thing they do.



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But then the HK does not deem white people as lower class and the contempt is more out of servitude and jealousy. Not racism. The fact that they do that behind their backs is also a sign of not wanting to upset people they deem of superior race and/or their masters.

Whereas... they will show open hostility in both words and expressions to Blacks or browns and to show who is really boss. The same applies with attitudes to Mainlanders. They would stand on the Grand podium and lecture them on social values. But the social values and attitudes of Africans and Indians are actually higher than Hong Kongers in some cases.

At the end of the day it has nothing to do with being defensive about their own identities. They simply view their identities, values and outlook being on par with the West but get frustrated because simply they are not accepted. They then have to take it out on someone.

In one of the forum posts, some younger Chinese wants independence to be part of the UK and US. Now that isn't really trying to form one's own identity but rather ape what they perceive to be their betters of superior standing. Would they fight tooth and nail if for any reason they were in the arms of the USA, Australia, UK or Canada? But what happens if that country is the Philippines (a democratic country), Japan (democratic country), Malaysia (a democracy) or the largest democracy in the world India?... but the answer is obvious.

[HKITperson]

I hope that one day, Hong Kong can be truly cosmopolitan with people of different races able to take up Government roles. I hope also that schools and workplaces have different people of ethnicity working and studying together and HK then is a truly International City.

Bigotry and prejudices have no place in modern society. I see a number of Indians on this board and it is marvelous because everyone is equal and everyone is free to form an opinion. However, the time for change is when you are also allowed to express the same on the local boards without a barrage of racist insults.

[INXS]

Given that I employ and respect women, why should I be forced to employ people who follow books that say it's okay to treat women as property and beat them?

Some people of certain faiths believe that I am an infidel and should be killed, unfairly taxed, have the tips of my fingers cut off and so on.

Why should I have to put up with having somebody like this in my office. If they hate me, how can I trust them. If they follow their god's teachings, it's their duty to undermine me.

If these same people say, "Oh, I'm a moderate, I only believe in the happy magic bits of my book!", why should I have any obligation to trust them?

For example...

I'm going a bit off topic here but I'm curious to get views on this.

Always slightly disturbed at the way 'liberals' seem to live in a fantasy bubble......I support equality for women, as do liberals, but liberals support the rights of certain women hating religions....I don't get it.....are liberals just stupid?

[Proplus]

But then the HK does not deem white people as lower class and the contempt is more out of servitude and jealousy. Not racism. The fact that they do that behind their backs is also a sign of not wanting to upset people they deem of superior race and/or their masters..

Actually, HK people view white people as being stupid dumbasses.

If you go to the more local places like wet markets, white people aren't treated with contempt not because of class or servitude, it's because the locals know the white will be stupid enough to be ripped off and pay over the odds for anything, and the whites will still walk away smiling.



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