Why FDH no need to go through a probation period !

[iliketurtles]

For the record, I never type my messages here, i dictate them and one of my helper type them.

That explains why your written English is so poor

[INXS]

I've seen the real HK world around me ok. Parts of it ain't pretty. It's not a normal sight in some "world city" to see people pushing the recycled paper cart up Wyndham St or along Nathan Rd. Also 100k or ~1.5% of the population living in humiliating cages like dogs. Not even sure if some of the middle income SEA countries have scenes like this. Perhaps high social deference is the problem. Clearly there's no floor against to how low living standards can go in HK

Bullshit. If it was possible to make a living collecting cardboard you would see loads of people in London and other western cities doing it.

As for cage homes.....it's been said many times that these guys choose this accommodation rather than share larger digs. For some, arguably it's not, but for most it's a choice....Using emotive language like cages is just plain stupid and admitting that you've sheepishly lapped up what the media spoon fed you. The grills are security to stop your gear being nicked....nothing more, nothing less...

[virago]

The OP definitely wants to fire the helper without paying anything including the return flight.

Which is what? $3000?

[Koen]

What are you fishing for me to say?

Its obviously not the "norm" in many expat home countries which is why when they come to Hong Kong they find the whole process so difficult. That wasn't the case with us as we grew up and came from a country with a lot of cheap labour. Being a domesic wasn't sneered at it was a life saver for many families. We did have a driver so do many living in our area in Hong Kong.

Get out more.

[Mat]

That explains why your written English is so poor

Wahhhhhh I feel soooo hurt by that one.

[Mat]

I've seen the real HK world around me ok. Parts of it ain't pretty. It's not a normal sight in some "world city" to see people pushing the recycled paper cart up Wyndham St or along Nathan Rd. Also 100k or ~1.5% of the population living in humiliating cages like dogs. Not even sure if some of the middle income SEA countries have scenes like this. Perhaps high social deference is the problem. Clearly there's no floor against to how low living standards can go in HK

But it is a normal sight in a world city (London, NYC, Paris), to see beggars all around, gangs of youth operating in Subways etc etc....

Each "world city" has misery, HK is no different than the others. Well sorry, it is different because it is smaller (in size) and as such more "in your face" while in bigger places (paris for example), you can stick the poors away from the center and the touristy places.

[elle]

Koen,

I am with you on that one. I grew up with 3 helpers, a butler, a driver, a gardener, a cook and it is perfectly normal where I come from (ie France). At last half the population live that way and I really don't quite get why people on these boards don't get it.

I agree with you, peeps should go out more in the real world.

For the record, I never type my messages here, i dictate them and one of my helper type them.

What, only three?? And you didn't have a nanny either!! You poor sod, how on earth did you survive your childhood

[Mat]

What, only three?? And you didn't have a nanny either!! You poor sod, how on earth did you survive your childhood

It was tough trust me. Lucky i discovered all those artifical paradise....made it a lot easier.

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[juergenw]

yes - we havwe asked permission from the helper & called the employer. I do not know what kind of stupid people this are even giving a good reference for a total "no brain"person.

[juergenw]

We do not expect a jamie Oliver in our kitchen, but for a helper over 6 years in Hong Kong we expect can do more than just 3 dishes & then if being not able to do - is fine. We teach her - but if 5 times teaching the same dish & the 6th times still cannot do alone & the reply is: Sorrryyyyy Maam I forgot - then who will not get crazy on this ? I am not talking about a 5 course 4 stars french menu. Just simple cooking.