Why FDH no need to go through a probation period !

[dipstick]

As said my 1st helper 6 years with us - so please see this & then you understand what I mean:
Sending my helper to the market with written down clear instructions - please see:
1) Buy 5 limes (she knew the shop already) - she brings home 5 lemons !
2) Buy 60 chicken-wings - she brings home 50 !
This is somewhat I call brainless & going on our ALL NERVES - this is the problem. And things like that multiply every day - so what is the helper helping us ? If I need to be the babysitter of her. Please note: THIS IS NOT A NEWCOMER TO HONG KONG - already 6 years in HONG KONG !
I say "french toast"- her reply is "french fries Siiiir"

How do you survive, life must be so terrible? All the troubles in the world, all the suffering and you are complaining about lemons not limes?

1) send her back to get 5 lemons or even better buy them yourself
2) send her back to get 10 more
Explain to her what French toast is she has probably never heard the expression.

[cbalex]

Bullshit. If it was possible to make a living collecting cardboard you would see loads of people in London and other western cities doing it.

As for cage homes.....it's been said many times that these guys choose this accommodation rather than share larger digs. For some, arguably it's not, but for most it's a choice....Using emotive language like cages is just plain stupid and admitting that you've sheepishly lapped up what the media spoon fed you. The grills are security to stop your gear being nicked....nothing more, nothing less...

How is using the phrase "cage home" emotive when the phrase accurately describes the housing these people are forced to resort to?

Your posts on this forum which defend almost every third world or feudal practice in this city really demonstrate that you are afflicted with a virulent strand of Stockholm Syndrome. Criticizing Hong Kong for its shortcomings is a civic duty - we should all try and make this is a better city. Explaining away gross norms and behavior by trotting out the culture argument does a great disservice to the community we live in.

[cbalex]

We do not expect a jamie Oliver in our kitchen, but for a helper over 6 years in Hong Kong we expect can do more than just 3 dishes & then if being not able to do - is fine. We teach her - but if 5 times teaching the same dish & the 6th times still cannot do alone & the reply is: Sorrryyyyy Maam I forgot - then who will not get crazy on this ? I am not talking about a 5 course 4 stars french menu. Just simple cooking.

Good job trolling everyone with your nonsense.

Ps just learn how to cook for yourself. Problem solved.

[virago]

Well instead of complaining here (and looking for sympathy) just fire her ass and cut your losses and employ a new one. Have a better interview process pay above minimum by $500-$800 a month (if you are not already doing it now) to attract better quality helpers.

[Bombastic]

Bullshit. If it was possible to make a living collecting cardboard you would see loads of people in London and other western cities doing it.

As for cage homes.....it's been said many times that these guys choose this accommodation rather than share larger digs. For some, arguably it's not, but for most it's a choice....Using emotive language like cages is just plain stupid and admitting that you've sheepishly lapped up what the media spoon fed you. The grills are security to stop your gear being nicked....nothing more, nothing less...

living in cages is a "choice",but only because of their limited circumstances due to low skilled wages being too low and cost of dwelling in this rigged property market system is too high

And don't bullshit me you right wing prick. Unfortunately, people do sell recycled paper for I believe, a meagre living

People in other world cities don't do this and are less likely to an abject working poor because there's is social safety net (assuming they are documented persons). HK is work or not having anything to live on (unless you have a benefactor)

[closedcasket]

How is using the phrase "cage home" emotive when the phrase accurately describes the housing these people are forced to resort to?

Your posts on this forum which defend almost every third world or feudal practice in this city really demonstrate that you are afflicted with a virulent strand of Stockholm Syndrome. Criticizing Hong Kong for its shortcomings is a civic duty - we should all try and make this is a better city. Explaining away gross norms and behavior by trotting out the culture argument does a great disservice to the community we live in.

Bravo! Well said.

[iliketurtles]

People in other world cities don't do this and are less likely to an abject working poor because there's is social safety net (assuming they are documented persons). HK is work or not having anything to live on (unless you have a benefactor)

I agree with this. If HK wants to be taken seriously as a world city, comparable to other world cities, it needs to address this. Some people might not believe in social security which would make their view understandable (even if still wrong).

In the UK, job seeker's allowance is at a minimum, HK$2,800 per month. The only such scheme I can see in HK (and I don't even know if it is in force but it came up on a google search) allows persons of poor neighbourhoods (like Yuen Long, Tuen Mun etc) to claim for a transport allowance of a maximum HK$600 on a reimbursement basis.

Old age pension? UK starts at 65 for men, 60 for women and is at a minimum HK$5,472. HK is at a maximum HK$2,200.

To be eligible for any of the HK allowances, you basically must be dirt poor with no assets.

The big difference in the UK is that every one of its citizens is entitled to reasonable (and subsidised or free) accommodation. There is no such entitlement in Hong Kong. Cage homes are not reasonable accommodation in the UK and even if they were, they would be free.

[jgl]

and you guys still think this is not a wind up?

I'm of the opinion that the OP is just an idiot rather than a deliberate wind up. It's pretty hard for an intelligent person to fake this level of stupidity.

[carang]

Hong kong has a social security net. Last i heard was $1800/month but that was about a decade ago. Govt housing is available at a percentage of income. There are also govt health and education susidies available even though the prices for these things are already so low. In many cases govt housing has been offered to some of the cage dwellers and they turned it down. They did not want to relocate and be apart from their friends.

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[MovingIn07]

I agree with this. If HK wants to be taken seriously as a world city, comparable to other world cities, it needs to address this. Some people might not believe in social security which would make their view understandable (even if still wrong).

In the UK, job seeker's allowance is at a minimum, HK$2,800 per month. The only such scheme I can see in HK (and I don't even know if it is in force but it came up on a google search) allows persons of poor neighbourhoods (like Yuen Long, Tuen Mun etc) to claim for a transport allowance of a maximum HK$600 on a reimbursement basis.

Old age pension? UK starts at 65 for men, 60 for women and is at a minimum HK$5,472. HK is at a maximum HK$2,200.

To be eligible for any of the HK allowances, you basically must be dirt poor with no assets.

The big difference in the UK is that every one of its citizens is entitled to reasonable (and subsidised or free) accommodation. There is no such entitlement in Hong Kong. Cage homes are not reasonable accommodation in the UK and even if they were, they would be free.

This is a wind-up surely? You cannot surely believe that importing the awful social security system of the UK, which encourages entire generations of families to sit on their backsides and never even look for work is a GOOD thing?

HK may be on the low side of assistance, but at least people here try and don't freeload off the rest of us.