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INXS, I am wondering what your logic is to vote for a compulsory probation period for FDHs? As Grunt says you can terminate with one month's notice anyway. What would you gain by a probationary period?
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24-09-2013, 04:22 PM #61
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24-09-2013, 04:27 PM #62
the last few posts (Moving, CC and Co) proved my point: Popcorn and Beers were in order.
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24-09-2013, 04:30 PM #63
Fair question. I believe that you shouldn't be able terminate a helper's employment with one month's notice anyway. It should be 3 months after a probationary period of three months. The obvious exceptions and yada yada would apply...
I think it would be better for employers and helpers alike...
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24-09-2013, 04:34 PM #64
Are you telling me you would rather see people living in abject poverty and starve than legally work their way out of poverty? Your definition of labour abuses is a First World one. I'm not trying to justify abuse, I AM trying to highlight that definitions of "abuse" are not black and white. Sexual harassment and beating is abuse; sleeping in a kitchen is a grey area.
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24-09-2013, 04:37 PM #65
Totally agree. We all want to pull everyone up to the top but we must climb the steps first....
In many countries, the concept of a 'bedroom' is unheard of....we can't push our cultural norms onto others...
When I first started working in social housing in the UK as a 'project worker' we had to do 'sleep ins' - fold up bed in the office, so what? I remember the night manager at Perrycoste Court slept on a fold up in the office every night...and this was a Housing Association...about as bloody liberal and nannyish as you get. Plenty of workers in Europe pull 16-20 hour shifts.....in care work, I often had shifts like this: 10am-0000 then 8am-1030am...0000-0800 was supposedly 'sleep time'.....
Just because you've always worked 9-5 don't think for a minute that it is normal folks......Last edited by INXS; 24-09-2013 at 04:45 PM.
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24-09-2013, 06:06 PM #66
All well and good but ..surprise surprise this is not "many countries"...this is HK. a developed country ....so we should not apply what works in Africa or wherever to HK but on the contrary....you see what I mean
No one says you have to work 9-5...but working with dignity and resaonable hours is (in the context of HK, a developped place) expected.
Nothing less, nothing more.
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24-09-2013, 06:50 PM #67
I want to add that I am speaking in terms of all HKers, not the narrow perspective of wealthy expats. Many locals sleep 5 or 6 to a room, routinely pull 12-14 hour shifts and sleep at work...We simply can't apply our western perspective here, especially as we are such a small minority.
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24-09-2013, 06:56 PM #68
I don't know anybody that sleeps 5-6 to a room in HK unless it's a gang bang
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24-09-2013, 06:57 PM #69
A HK gang bang...shhhhhhhudder
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24-09-2013, 07:01 PM #70
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