China donates $100,000 to Philippines

[dipstick]

Consider this please guys and just think harder.

China and The Philippines do not have normal relations right now. It is not possible for China to simply hand over a huge sum of money...imagine the scenario if The Philippines rejected the offer...

From China:

“We express deep sympathy with the Philippines for their huge property losses and casualties and we have extended sincere solicitude,” the foreign ministry said on Tuesday. “We are willing to consider providing more humanitarian support and assistance to the Philippines within our capacity.”

The Philippines can ask for more help and it will be considered.

As a major player in the region, throwing cash at the problem isn't a sustainable solution is it?

http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsu...2/105235.shtml

so how come they made a donation of 4.5million to japan?

[HKITperson]

so how come they made a donation of 4.5million to japan?

Here's your answer. INXS is right!


Dr Xu Liping, an Asean researcher with the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said bilateral tensions arising from the two countries' South China Sea dispute is a key factor.

"Right now, the Sino-Philippine relationship is not in a normal state, so the government cannot handle the situation through normal means," he said, adding Beijing will have to first check if Manila is ready to accept its aid to avoid any embarrassment.

"The government also has to assess how much aid to give because giving too little or too much could invite criticism from the Philippines or even from the Chinese people," said Xu.

and

China is offering aid in the form of tents and blankets to the Philippines in the wake of Typhoon Haiyan, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said here on Wednesday.

China will closely follow developments of its neighbor and offer humanitarian aid within its capacity, Qin Gang told a daily news briefing.

The material aid will help several thousands of people in typhoon-devastated regions, Qin said.

"China is carrying out its international humanitarian obligations," Qin said, adding China itself is suffering the effects of super typhoon Haiyan.

and

China, which on Saturday sent its condolences through its embassy in Manila, announced its aid offer on Monday.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang told a regular briefing that the government and the China Red Cross would donate $100,000 each and that China would be monitoring the situation and working with international groups to see what else it can do.

[Skyhook]

Here's your answer. INXS is right!


Dr Xu Liping, an Asean researcher with the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said bilateral tensions arising from the two countries' South China Sea dispute is a key factor.

"Right now, the Sino-Philippine relationship is not in a normal state, so the government cannot handle the situation through normal means," he said, adding Beijing will have to first check if Manila is ready to accept its aid to avoid any embarrassment.

"The government also has to assess how much aid to give because giving too little or too much could invite criticism from the Philippines or even from the Chinese people," said Xu.

and

China is offering aid in the form of tents and blankets to the Philippines in the wake of Typhoon Haiyan, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said here on Wednesday.

China will closely follow developments of its neighbor and offer humanitarian aid within its capacity, Qin Gang told a daily news briefing.

The material aid will help several thousands of people in typhoon-devastated regions, Qin said.

"China is carrying out its international humanitarian obligations," Qin said, adding China itself is suffering the effects of super typhoon Haiyan.

and

China, which on Saturday sent its condolences through its embassy in Manila, announced its aid offer on Monday.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang told a regular briefing that the government and the China Red Cross would donate $100,000 each and that China would be monitoring the situation and working with international groups to see what else it can do.

On the news over here in Brussels, they had an interview with some dude from the China consulate, who basically said that the reason why the amount of aid given so far was quite small, due to past corruption concerns with the phils govt. Basically china is happy to donate providing the money gets to those that need it, not disappear etc.

Must say that, the coverage of the phils typhoon disaster is getting very comprehensive press over here in Belgium.

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[dipstick]

HKIT you said that was my answer but nothing in there related to my question

[dipstick]

On the news over here in Brussels, they had an interview with some dude from the China consulate, who basically said that the reason why the amount of aid given so far was quite small, due to past corruption concerns with the phils govt. Basically china is happy to donate providing the money gets to those that need it, not disappear etc.

Must say that, the coverage of the phils typhoon disaster is getting very comprehensive press over here in Belgium.

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at least they are having to defend themselves though it defies logic

[East_coast]

Evidence or it's conjecture. More tiresome conjecture...

Conjecture about the motives is somewhat pointless as it does not change the outcome of such a minuscule donation...

The Communist Party look churlish.

For a permanent member of the security council this is very disappointing even when the tensions were bad last year the Philippines donated a larger sum to assist relief efforts after the quake in the province of Yunan

[reprazent]

I am neither anti or pro-China.

and who are you trying to fool here? We all know you're married to a mainlander (which is totally fine, really) I get it, but the way you get upset as soon as people mention the words china + mainlander? shows us exactly what kind of pathetic little person you are. calling me racist and whatnot. For real try reading back that shit you were trying to throw at me. even if you don't feel ashamed of it, your students definitely would be.

btw, congrats! you're back on my blacklist, permanantly this time. Tired of you spouting BS.

[Creative83]

So, you're using him marrying a Chinese woman against him to try to prove he's on China's side?
I think he's just trying to stay - thinking.

But he's right, you sound racist - as with many others here. Think it was just yesterday that some guy in the forum wants Japanese to kill more Chinese and not many voiced out against it.

Then you have that thread where some kid wants to kill Chinese and you have people here defending the TV show.

I think what's unusual about China is that they get smeared so much by the US/UK media but still they decide to stay constructive.

[Dreadnought]

Putting stupid shit like political considerations ahead of humanitarian needs. Yes, sounds about right.

Had the Philippine gummint rejected a Chinese offer of a more generous donation, it would have been a PR coup for the Chinese and a poor reflection on the Philippines. Anyone incapable of seeing this is in need of a refresher course in preschool.

[dipstick]

INXS I have shown you the respect of going through all your comments again to see if I can find anything in there:

(I would also suggest you go through the first 10 pages to see how mature your comments are)

> We don't know the value of the humanitarian aid
- USD 100,000

> I don't know the cash reserves China has
- considerably more than most countries

> Maybe China aren't confident that cash would be used appropriately
- Perhaps, but this does not seem to have put off any other country

> Perhaps they plan to give more later
- Sincerely hope so and if they do I will give them the credit for it (assuming it is not another 100k). If this is the case then this has been a political and PR disaster of their own making.

> "Even my helper says the young men are too busy nicking TVs to get food and water"
- a disgraceful comment which shows no understanding of the real situation

> Corruption is endemic in the Philippines.
- Very true, but it is arguably less corrupt than it was when they gave a million before. Certainly no more corrupt. It also did not stop them giving aid in the millions to Pakistan, perhaps one the most corrupt places on earth.

> " None of us have all the facts"
- True, we all live within bounded rationality. Unfortunately for China the worldwide response to their donation appears to be that people feel they have sufficient salient facts. You are using this argument now, which could be used for any topic, but I notice you do not apply the same rule in other threads.

> "The difference is that I'm not inventing a story..."
- No you make rational well thought out suggestions, everyone else makes tiresome conjectures. I think any sane person would consider the two to be the same thing.

> " when you try and debate with intellectual lightweights..."
- No comment needed given some of your comments on this thread

> "You are letting your ... biased view regarding China..."
- Completely untrue, please give evidence

> "In this case I'm right"; "I don't think I am [wrong]. I could be..."; "You and the others are simply wrong"
- please make your mind up, are you definitely right or possibly wrong?

> The two countries are involved in a territorial dispute / relations are bad
- As they are, in spades, with Japan yet they donated millions there

> Philippines might reject the offer
- ???? Then the Philippines would look really stupid

Let me know if I have missed anything out. Let me know if you would like to challenge any of these arguments.