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    Chinese race superiority....

    Quote Originally Posted by jayinhongkong:
    Part of the problem is that local teachers can be pretty racist too, even though they don't realize their behavior constitutes racism. I work at a primary school in the Wong Tai Sin district: the area with the lowest average income and education level in the territory. I've been casually told I'm not in the same class as white people because I'm Indian. I've even been told the same thing by someone who works for the Home Affairs Bureau's Race Relations Unit. They said white people aren't eligible for services for Ethnic Minorities because they're of a higher class. I then pointed out that one of the Indian guys who was receiving government subsidized services owns a building worth about half a billion dollars, while the white people who were 'taking advantage' of the service were teachers.

    I've also been told that all gweilo use their left hands when they use chopsticks. I politely pointed out that I use my left hand because I'm left-handed.

    There was no malice of any sorts when the statements above were made: it just seems like a lot of locals think white people are better than them and they're ok with that. I've heard a local with a postgrad degree from one of the best universities in the world say something to that effect too.
    i know this is an old tread, but i have to point it out. you might have lived in hk for a long time, but you definitely do NOT know the chinese culture well enough. we chinese do NOT consider any people better than us. be it white/brown/black. throughout history, we've always thought the han is the most superior race on earth. with that said, that doesn't mean we are the best in everything. we admit that white people are better than us in certain things generally speaking such as sports and physical strength. yet, we do think we are generally better in intelligence, and we are on average more intelligent because of a higher average iq.

    we chinese think that white people are different from us, but definitely not better than us. they are only better when it is something that has to do with physical strength.

    but when it is something to do with intelligence, then we think we are the best.

    sorry for all the stereotypes and generations, but i am speaking the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino Defender:
    i know this is an old tread, but i have to point it out. you might have lived in hk for a long time, but you definitely do NOT know the chinese culture well enough. we chinese do NOT consider any people better than us. be it white/brown/black. throughout history, we've always thought the han is the most superior race on earth. with that said, that doesn't mean we are the best in everything. we admit that white people are better than us in certain things generally speaking such as sports and physical strength. yet, we do think we are generally better in intelligence, and we are on average more intelligent because of a higher average iq.

    we chinese think that white people are different from us, but definitely not better than us. they are only better when it is something that has to do with physical strength.

    but when it is something to do with intelligence, then we think we are the best.

    sorry for all the stereotypes and generations, but i am speaking the truth.
    the truth as in all these generalizations and stereotypes. i don't mean they are the truth, but it's the truth that these stereotypes exist among the majority of the chinese population.

    sorry again, but i get VERY offended when anyone says we chinese think of anyone else being more superior to us. it's almost like an insult. you can call me racist, but i've always thought we han chinese are the most superior race with the highest average intelligence. there are exceptions of course.

    now you can call me ignorant, but i don't care. this is what i think, and i can tell you there are more chinese who think like me than otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino Defender:
    i've always thought we han chinese are the most superior race with the highest average intelligence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sino Defender:
    now you can call me ignorant, but i don't care. this is what i think
    Willful ignorance isn't exactly a hallmark of intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino Defender:
    the truth as in all these generalizations and stereotypes. i don't mean they are the truth, but it's the truth that these stereotypes exist among the majority of the chinese population.

    sorry again, but i get VERY offended when anyone says we chinese think of anyone else being more superior to us. it's almost like an insult. you can call me racist, but i've always thought we han chinese are the most superior race with the highest average intelligence. there are exceptions of course.

    now you can call me ignorant, but i don't care. this is what i think, and i can tell you there are more chinese who think like me than otherwise.

    and you don't seem to realise that you are insulting the other 4.5 billion people on earth? doesn't seem too intelligent to me...

    i think you're getting too big for your britches...oh, my....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino Defender:

    we chinese think that white people are different from us, but definitely not better than us. they are only better when it is something that has to do with physical strength.
    The Chinese olympic weightlifting team might not agree.

    but when it is something to do with intelligence, then we think we are the best.
    And it is exactly this kind of thinking that stunted China's growth and turned it into an ass-backwards country for the most of last few hundred years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carang:
    and you don't seem to realise that you are insulting the other 4.5 billion people on earth? doesn't seem too intelligent to me...

    i think you're getting too big for your britches...oh, my....
    if you think stating my thought is an insult to you, then let it be. people are subject to their own thoughts and minds. you might not agree with me, but that, by no means, makes you the judge on what's right or wrong. there's no right or wrong on one's preference and thought.

    plus, the only people hong kong chinese would think of them as a higher class are the rich chinese businessmen living at the peak and deep water bay. not some expats living here as middle class employees. if you got a couple billion bucks to spare, you would be considered as one from a superior class regardless of your skin color or even species.

    if you were just a middle class employee, i'm sorry, but no chinese would consider you as anything other than a middle class employee.

    money is the standard of everything here just so you know, and as a matter of fact, the vast majority of rich businessmen in hong kong are chinese. the list of 50 richest people in hong kong is consisted entirely of billionairs in usd terms. and the majority of the list is chinese.

    those are the people who local chinese people look up to and dream of becoming one day.

    plus, i am telling you the truth of what the chinese norm is when it comes to labeling foreign races such as the white people.

    the reason why chinese people prefer white people to teach english is because english was originated in a white country called england. chinese parents would prefer chinese teachers to teach their kids chinese or japanese teachers to teach their kids japanese for the very same reason.

    this is our (or at least most of us) way of thinking. if you don't like or disagree with it, then too bad, but it ain't gonna change us nor the way we've thought about foreigners for thousands of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy Mundo:
    The Chinese olympic weightlifting team might not agree.



    And it is exactly this kind of thinking that stunted China's growth and turned it into an ass-backwards country for the most of last few hundred years.
    i already stated that there are exceptions, but the overwhelming thought is exactly what i stated. you might be surprised to find out the chinese olympic weightlifting team actually would agree with me. they actually said it in an interview right after their game that "foreign races such as the whites and blacks are genetically more physically able than us that we had to double our efforts to make up for that difference."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy Mundo:
    The Chinese olympic weightlifting team might not agree.



    And it is exactly this kind of thinking that stunted China's growth and turned it into an ass-backwards country for the most of last few hundred years.
    for the past 20 centuries, china was the most advanced nation and the largest economy in the world in 18 of them until the manchus came in. as long as china was under han administration, it was the most advanced and richest nation on earth. that kinda thinking was among the chinese for the majority of the past 20 centuries, and china became lagged behind only after the manchu dynasty was established by voilence. during that 260 or so years of manchu rule, china lost the most advanced nation status and it was during those years that the han superiority complex was oppressed.

    yet, china is ruled by the hans again now, and as trends suggest, it is going to be the leading nation again just like the majority of the past 5,000 years.

    if you look at the world's history in a big pic, china has been the most advanced nation for the majority of its history, and it's likely to be so again within your lifetime.

    history tells us it is in fact quite the opposite of what you stated. it's this kinda thinking that made china powerful in the past, and it's also the lack of this kinda thinking that made it weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sino Defender:
    if you think stating my thought is an insult to you, then let it be. people are subject to their own thoughts and minds. you might not agree with me, but that, by no means, makes you the judge on what's right or wrong. there's no right or wrong on one's preference and thought.

    plus, the only people hong kong chinese would think of them as a higher class are the rich chinese businessmen living at the peak and deep water bay. not some expats living here as middle class employees. if you got a couple billion bucks to spare, you would be considered as one from a superior class regardless of your skin color or even species.

    if you were just a middle class employee, i'm sorry, but no chinese would consider you as anything other than a middle class employee.

    money is the standard of everything here just so you know, and as a matter of fact, the vast majority of rich businessmen in hong kong are chinese. the list of 50 richest people in hong kong is consisted entirely of billionairs in usd terms. and the majority of the list is chinese.

    those are the people who local chinese people look up to and dream of becoming one day.

    plus, i am telling you the truth of what the chinese norm is when it comes to labeling foreign races such as the white people.

    the reason why chinese people prefer white people to teach english is because english was originated in a white country called england. chinese parents would prefer chinese teachers to teach their kids chinese or japanese teachers to teach their kids japanese for the very same reason.

    this is our (or at least most of us) way of thinking. if you don't like or disagree with it, then too bad, but it ain't gonna change us nor the way we've thought about foreigners for thousands of years.

    just so you know my background:

    i studied chinese history in uni. i am quite aware of how chinese thought in the past. anyone not chinese was considered "barbarian"... HOWEVER, your reluctance to accept that intelligence is an INDIVIDUAL characteristic and NOT a racial one, only highlights two things:
    1) just how unintelligent YOU are and;
    2) just how badly this thinking hurt the chinese nation in the past.

    ps> i'm also married to a chinese man.

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