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    need help - don't know what to start visa/id

    I was born in in Hong Kong.
    I have Hong Kong Permenant ID card (smart card I got 2 years ago when I was in HK))
    I have Hong Hong Birth certificate.
    I have US passport
    I am US citizen through naturalization.

    Can I apply HK passport?
    I plan to go back HK on June, it it better to apply on line or wait till in HK and apply?
    How long does it take?

    My wife was born in China.
    She has China Birth certificate.
    She has US passport
    She is US citizen through naturalization.

    Can she apply HK id card, passport port?
    How?

    My kids were born in US
    They are US citizen
    They have US passport

    Can they apply HK id, passport?
    How?


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    We need a little more information. Were you a HK Citizen when you were born? What passport did you hold before you naturalised as a US Citizen?

    Did your wife renounce her Chinese Citizenship, or is she a dual national? (i.e. still holding or eligible for a Chinese passport)

    Were you (still) a HK Citizen when your kids were born?

    But the minimum case, assuming your wife has lived outside the mainland for at least a year is that she and your children would be granted Dependant Visas were they to move to HK with you. This would probably take about 4-6 weeks.

    It may be possible to get much more than that, but (assuming she has lived outside China for a year) you would certainly all be able to come and live here (and work/study freely).


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    need help - additional info

    When I was born, I was Hong Kong citizen. I have HK birth certificate, I have HK id, I have HK passport (I do not have HK passport now)

    I have HK passport before I naturalized to become US citizen and have US passport now.

    My wife did not surrender her chinese citizenship, she became US citizen through naturalization when she was 18, now she has US passport.
    She legally immigrant to US with her parents when she was 13

    Not sure she is eligable for Chiness passport or HK passport or HK id

    Both my wife and myself were US citizen when my kids were born

    My kids have US birth certificate and US passport


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    I am not an expert on this, but I think the situation is:

    Since you never renounced your HK citizenship you could simply renew your HK Passport if you wish.

    Your wife could not get a HK Passport. However, she would be granted a Dependant Visa within 4-6 weeks. After 7 years residence in HK she could apply for HK Permanent Residency and then, perhaps since she has never renounced Chinese citizenship for a HK passport (not sure about this).

    For your kids, since you did not renounce your HK/Chinese citizenship then I think this page says that they were entitled to the Right of Abode at birth, but if they have not been in HK every 3 years since then they will have lost that and will now be entitled to Right to Land. For all practical purposes this is the same thing (no vote and they could be deported for serious offences).


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    more info dependent visa

    How to apply dependent visa for my wife.

    Can I apply on line and how long and where to pick up?

    Can I send all doc to HK to apply and pick up dependent visa in HK (plan to go HK on June)

    OR when we go back HK and apply in HK, how long will it take?

    Which way is more convience and faster?

    Can my kids apply HK id because I have HK id?


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    For your wife's dependant visa, you cannot apply online, but you can download the forms and guidance notes on the Immigration Department website:
    Form: http://www.immd.gov.hk/pdforms/id(e)936.pdf
    Guidance: http://www.immd.gov.hk/pdforms/id(e)937.pdf

    You can then submit to your local Chinese embassy/consulate or direct by mail to HK Immigration.

    Alternatively, since your wife would get a 3 month visitor visa as a US citizen you could apply once you are here. It will take about 6 weeks. This is probably the most convenient way.

    As I stated in the previous post I believe your kids can get a HK ID with Right to Land. Again probably the most convenient way is for them to enter on their US passports as 3 month visitors and then apply here. This will take a bit longer than your wife's visa.
    Form: http://www.immd.gov.hk/pdforms/rop145.pdf
    Guidance: http://www.immd.gov.hk/pdforms/rop145a.pdf
    I believe the process is that they apply for Right of Abode, are told that the would have it except that they have been absent from HK for more than 3 years, and hence they will be granted Right to Land.

    But there are many other discussions in these forums from ABCs who know the details far better than me.


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    need further info on dependent visa/HK id

    When apply dependent visa for my wife and HK id for my kid, do they have yo apply in person? Can we just mail all doc to HK. How about pick up, is it need to pick up in person in HK or US office.

    I try to mail all doc to HK office first, then when I go to HK, I can just pick up. Save waiting time in HK. Will this work?

    is it after getting the dependent visa, my wife can apply HK id, how long to apply HK id.


    you mentioned my kid takes more time to apply HK id, can they apply online or mail all doc to HK first, then pick up in HK


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    I'll try again.

    Do it all when you get to Hong Kong. Your wife and kids enter on their US passports and get 3 months Visitors Visas.

    When your wife gets the Dependant Visa then she can immediately apply for a HKID card. She will get a temporary card instantly and the real plastic card two weeks later. Just to be clear, she will be a non-permanent resident until she has resided here for 7 years. But she will have the right to work or study freely.


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    When were your kids born ? If they were born after July 1 1997 , they won't be eligible for Right to Land. You will have to sponsor them along with your wife as dependants.

    Last edited by Aritaurus; 21-05-2008 at 04:12 AM.

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    born before or after JUly 1, 1997

    One of my kid was born before July 1, 1997 and the others after July 1, 1997.

    The one before, can he apply HK ID

    Those after, is it mean they have to apply dependent visa?


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