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    HKPR regulations changed after the HK handover. Those born after the handover overseas may have a different status under HK laws from those born on or before 30June 1997.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drunken Master:
    It depends on the status of the parents when the children were born. If the parents are Chinese nationals at the time of the children's birth then the children will get 3 star hkid and hksar passports.

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    US Born Sons, Can They Get Hong Kong ID Cards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNQhk:


    Those born overseas with their parents being just tourists are still eligible for HKPR.
    Snqhk, you dont know nothing....







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    I don't want to argue anymore, there will be no more reply from me on this thread.
    I know because I have relatives with extremely similar case as Q10's.

    The children of such case, who were born outside of HK before the handover, may still be eligible for Right to Land in HK, but not HKPR, as they were considered HKPR before 1 July 1997. They are former HKPR without Chinese citizenship.

    Just look at this
    Right of Abode | Immigration Department

    Q10. If I have emigrated overseas and I am an overseas resident (e.g. become a US resident, holder of US green card but have not yet naturalized as a US citizen), can my child born in a foreign country (e.g. US or Canada) enjoy the right of abode in the HKSAR?


    If a child has acquired a foreign nationality at birth to parents of Chinese nationality who have settled overseas (e.g. in the USA) at the time of the child’s birth, regardless of whether or not the parents have acquired the foreign nationality, the child does not have Chinese nationality in accordance with Article 5 of the Nationality Law of the People’s Republic of China. As the child is not a Chinese citizen, he or she is not eligible for Hong Kong permanent resident status.
    Supplementary Information
    Under paragraph 2(c) of Schedule 1 to the Immigration Ordinance, Cap 115, a person of Chinese nationality born outside Hong Kong before or after the establishment of the HKSAR to a parent who, at the time of birth of that person, was a Chinese citizen born in Hong Kong or has resided ordinarily in Hong Kong for a continuous period of not less than 7 years, is a permanent resident of the HKSAR and can enjoy the right of abode in Hong Kong.
    However, for a Chinese citizen born in Hong Kong or has ordinarily resided in Hong Kong for a continuous period of not less than 7 years, his or her child’s eligibility for the right of abode in Hong Kong depends on whether this child has Chinese nationality at the time of birth.
    Article 5 of Chinese Nationality Law states that: “Any person born abroad whose parents are both Chinese nationals or one of whose parents is a Chinese national shall have Chinese nationality. But a person whose parents are both Chinese nationals and have both settled abroad, or one of whose parents is a Chinese national and has settled abroad, and who has acquired foreign nationality at birth shall not have Chinese nationality.”
    Under normal circumstances, having permanent resident status in a foreign country (that is, having resided abroad ordinarily and not being subject to any limit of stay) will be treated as having settled abroad.

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    You are qualified for the RTL because you were a HKPR before the handover. But you did not live in HK for at least 36 months after 1 July 97, your HKPR status was automatically lost but you are still eligible for
    RTL.

    RTL is a thing only for former HKPR without Chinese citizenship. So if you have RTL, it means at some earlier period in your life, you had HKPR.

    Those born on or after 1 July 97 outside of HK are a different story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktri:
    I went through a similar process as Hairball when I got my RTL. The immigration officers told my dad that their general understanding of the law was this: those of us born overseas to a parent that was born in HK are eligible to return to HK and work/study/etc. free from any visa restrictions (ie: RTL or ROA if you quality). So if you meet that requirement you should be able to get a HKID, even if you don't speak Cantonese.
    The exact requirements for BDTCs or BN(O)s are no longer available on official websites, as the deadline to apply for them have long passed.

    Many HK BDTCs were not good in or can speak a complete sentence in English. As is the true case of the population in HKSAR nowadays.
    Quote Originally Posted by IceEagle:
    There was still an Immigration Department before the handover, and it handled naturalisation applications back then too. I don't know the exact requirements back then, but it was probably something like 5 years legal residence, fluency in english, etc.
    Last edited by SNQhk; 21-07-2015 at 05:30 PM.

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    I personally welcome that you won't reply anymore. This way you won't mislead people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray1130:
    Dear All,

    My wife and I were born in Hong Kong, we both have 3-star Hong Kong ID Cards. We immigrated to the US in 1996. We are still just LPR (Legal Permanent Residents) only, NOT US Citizens. Our sons are US Citizens under the age of 18 (not sure if that means anything). I am very anxious to find out if they are eligible to obtain Hong Kong ID cards. Our family comes back to Hong Kong at least once a year.

    I have read through every at the government WEB site, but I am still not sure whether or not they can get Hong Kong ID cards. Any experts here have experience on this? Your help is much appreciated.

    Thanks!
    I presume your sons were born after 1 July 1997 in the United States, obtained US Citizenship at birth in the USA by jus soli, and at their birth, both you and your wife were US Permanent Residents.

    If the above is all correct, then unfortunately your sons have no entitlement to any kind of HKID (not even Right to Land - RTL). The only way they would get any HKID in the HKSAR would be on a Dependent visa and through 7-years continuous ordinary residence to obtain non-Chinese ROA.

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