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    The quota is for family reunion. Professionals don't need the quota, they can just apply for a visa.

    60 spots out of 150 are reserved exclusively for children born on the Mainland to at least one HK parent. Quite frankly atrocious that they even need a quota spot, were they born anywhere else they'd be HK citizens automatically.

    In 2019 there were 39060 arrivals under the quota, or 107 per day.
    For 2020 the figures were: Q1: 95/day Q2: 18/day Q3: 38/day
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    The main detractor now would be the smashed economy and unemployment although the level of public welfare and housing available would still have a strong pull when compared to what is available across the border


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    It's a big country. HK is probably no longer attractive for someone in first or second tier cities. But for someone in a rural area or with a fourth tier city hukou, HK still offers a better life. And it's probably easier to come to HK than say getting a Shanghai / Beijing etc hukou.

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    There is a decade long backlog of people trying to get in on one way permits. It's definitely not subsiding any time soon.

    There are many things that are still attractive in HK, especially if you want to raise children, including the education, more reliable healthcare, safety etc. It's also sometimes easier for a villager or sub-tier 3 resident to move to HK than trying to get hukou in a Tier 1 mainland city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrgoodkat:
    The quota is for family reunion. Professionals don't need the quota, they can just apply for a visa.

    60 spots out of 150 are reserved exclusively for children born on the Mainland to at least one HK parent. Quite frankly atrocious that they even need a quota spot, were they born anywhere else they'd be HK citizens automatically.

    In 2019 there were 39060 arrivals under the quota, or 107 per day.
    For 2020 the figures were: Q1: 95/day Q2: 18/day Q3: 38/day
    That is in-correct. Family re-union is only one of the reasons and around about 2/3rds were for new brides, parents or children but I believe it was falling as a %. In 2016 it was reported that the Secretary of the Political and Legal Affairs Commission of Hebei Province was found selling OWPs to Hong Kong , with a price tag of each OWP at HK$1.5 million to HK$2 million according to questions and answers in Legco (obviously these types of questions will never be asked again)
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    I just checked and there are 5 categories for family reunion and one called "special circumstances", nothing else. I assume "special circumstances" are used by various public security organs to have their employees move to HK and not just every Tom, Dick and Harry. BTW: Lai Changxin bought his one-way permit from the guy in charge of issuing them in Xian, who was later sentenced to 10 years in prison for it. Probably also under the special circumstances provision.

    https://www.scmp.com/article/382596/...permit-kingpin

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    Presumably this is because compared to the mainland, HK is currently a covid-riddled cess pit of disease?

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    Children born to a HK citizen would be citizen by birth, as confirmed by the Court of Final Appeal. But the local government got their panties all in a bunch and asked the Central Government to require a one-way permit for those children. Children of Mainland citizens in HK on a work visa can just come on a dependent visa.

    The 6 categories are

    1. Mainland spouses and their minor children
    2. Children born on the Mainland to HK "citizens"
    3. Children under 18 whose parents have settled in HK
    4. Children over 18 and below 60 who need to move to HK to care for their parents who are over 60 and have no other children
    5. Parents of HK residents, who are over 60 and have no other children and need care
    6. special circumstances

    I don't think there are figures for each category,
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    Yes, that's exactly how it works.

    https://www.scmp.com/article/668742/...hook-hong-kong

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    Equally absurd is the one way nature. If someone does move to HK and realises their spouse isn't the person they wanted to be or living in a HK concrete showbox isn't what they imagined. They can't divorce and go back.

    The lack of transparency on priority and who actually came (education level, family connection, age, sex etc) to HK is the issue with the system.

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