Well I am Dutch born in Holland and grew up there. I applied for a Hong Kong id card and got it granted in 2007, I also wanted a return home permit because no more hassle with visa then. They told me I have to apply for a HKSAR passport, which I did. When I applied for the HKSAR passport they asked me why I want it cause I have a Dutch passport I explained them it is for the return home permit and they grant me one.
I am not using my HKSAR passport at all just use my dutch passport for traveling internationally.
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23-10-2009, 03:57 PM #21
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23-10-2009, 10:20 PM #22
Mainlanders that are living in Hong Kong and don't have right of abode yet also have ***, as it denotes eligibility for a Hong Kong re-entry permit.
But yes, *** does not always mean PR, you have to have an "A".
Maybe the HK government should update the website so it actually makes sense for people. It has practically no info on the home return permit. I know they don't issue it, but I think they should at least have some info for less confusion.
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23-10-2009, 10:22 PM #23
Ah - good point - I hadn't thought of that. It's at times like this I wish I could go back and correct posts more than 30 minutes old so that people don't get confused.
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24-10-2009, 08:09 AM #24
A HKSAR passport holder by definition has Chinese nationality.
It depends whether or not you already have Chinese nationality in the eyes of the PRC government. If yes, then no problem; if not, then you should need to acquire Chinese nationality i.e become a naturalized citizen by virtue of eligibility through residence (which would require renouncing your existing citizenship).
Under Chinese Nationality Law:
Were you parents settled in the UK at the time of your birth? Were you born before 1983 (thereby automatically acquiring British citizenship at birth)? If yes/yes, then you do not have Chinese nationality. Otherwise you may already have Chinese nationality & therefore eligible for a HKSAR passport.Any person born abroad whose parents are both Chinese nationals or one of whose parents is a Chinese national shall have Chinese nationality. But a person whose parents are both Chinese nationals and have both settled abroad, or one of whose parents is a Chinese national and has settled abroad, and who has acquired foreign nationality at birth shall not have Chinese nationality.
Anyway...the British Citizen passport is vastly superior to the HKSAR passport for international travel purposes. I can't think of any good practical reason why you should want the HKSAR passport as an alternative travel document for international travel purposes
- it isn't a serious alternative to the BC passport. I can't think of any important country outside China where a HKSAR passport would be more advantageous than a BC passport. It's even more convenient to use a BC passport to enter Taiwan!
The only reason why someone with a superior passport might want a HKSAR passport is to get a Home Return Permit but you already got one
Last edited by Elfin safety; 24-10-2009 at 08:14 AM.
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24-10-2009, 08:21 AM #25
Presumably your particular circumstances of overseas birth is such that you have Chinese nationality. As obviously in the HKSAR passport, under 'Nationality' it states 'Chinese'. They won't dish out HKSAR passports to non-Chinese citizens simply because the applicant fancied getting one in order to get a HRP!
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24-10-2009, 11:06 PM #26
Well i was born in 1975 in Holland so I never had the Chinese nationality until in 2007 when I was 32 years old? So I was never a chinese citizen at all.
Presumably your particular circumstances of overseas birth is such that you have Chinese nationality. As obviously in the HKSAR passport, under 'Nationality' it states 'Chinese'. They won't dish out HKSAR passports to non-Chinese citizens simply because the applicant fancied getting one in order to get a HRP!
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24-10-2009, 11:14 PM #27
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25-10-2009, 01:17 PM #28
I agree with Hairball. If this was not so then you would have had to renounce your previous nationalities in order to become a Chinese Citizen.
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25-10-2009, 10:38 PM #29
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25-10-2009, 11:58 PM #30
Ok, maybe I was not entirely correct then, lol... this stuff is sure confusing as hell isn't it?
Apparently it's for Chinese citizens that have right of abode or unconditional stay in Hong Kong. So since those mainlanders are on conditional stay, they aren't eligible for a HK Re-entry permit, which is what *** means.
Source: GovHK: Eligibility for HKSAR Re-entry Permit
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