Thanks for all the advice, Yeah I was thinking a newer building would be the ticket, but then there is the worry about price. Are double windows the norm in HK? I find that can do a lot of good for cutting down the noise, and newer buildings are much less likely to have constant renovations unless they are so new they are still being built (that happened to me before in shanghai). I really wish more places in shanghai had double windows but it seems only the most fancy apartments have them. I would also like to get a place that has the famous FTTH internet built in, and I gather that is much less likely further out in the new territories.