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    Quote Originally Posted by iliketurtles:
    Am I typing to a brick wall?

    What the landlord promised her for the rent she pays is as set out in the contract. If it doesn't specifically say that she is entitled to hot running water in her kitchen, then, simply, there is no basis for her to force him into making the repairs other than by being incredibly annoying.

    Yes, you might think she's hard done by, but she can either (1) get on with it and sort it out herself (what most others do), or (2) cry scream and shout and generally cause a scene, which might make the landlord go above and beyond what they are contractually obligated to do.
    What about if the ll had dissconnected electricity? Would you say the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK_Katherine:
    What about if the ll had dissconnected electricity? Would you say the same?

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    What does the contract say?

    What if the air conditioners packed in?

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    I am no lawyer, but if I have taken up a flat in x position, with this many numbers of aircons, or water heater, or clean/non-mouldy walls, or proper crapper, a bathtub or hot water in the kitchen, then any time these go bust, its the landlord who fixes them or pays for the fixes. This has been my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunsnroses:
    I am no lawyer, but if I have taken up a flat in x position, with this many numbers of aircons, or water heater, or clean/non-mouldy walls, or proper crapper, a bathtub or hot water in the kitchen, then any time these go bust, its the landlord who fixes them or pays for the fixes. This has been my experience.
    Same here. Had air con replaced by last landlady.

    I'm sure this was helped by a good relationship though. I doubt she legally had to replace it. So I wouldn't say getting angry or withholding rent is going to be the best idea.

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    The ll, through his employees, cut off the hot water supply to the kitchen whilst repairing the water supply to the toilet.

    The hot water supply to the kitchen therefore needs to be repaired. Cables, pipes and drains are the responsibility of the ll.

    He has been notified of the defect and is legally responsible for the repairs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by justjoe86:
    Same here. Had air con replaced by last landlady.

    I'm sure this was helped by a good relationship though. I doubt she legally had to replace it. So I wouldn't say getting angry or withholding rent is going to be the best idea.

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    If the aircon is listed in your tenancy agreement (it probably is), it's part of the lease and she is responsible for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usehername:
    If the aircon is listed in your tenancy agreement (it probably is), it's part of the lease and she is responsible for it.
    Okay usehername, so follow this logic through for hot water supply to the kitchen. If it is not specified in the tenancy agreement, who is responsible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iliketurtles:
    Okay usehername, so follow this logic through for hot water supply to the kitchen. If it is not specified in the tenancy agreement, who is responsible?
    Pipes are the responsibility of the ll.

    It says so in the tenancy agreement.

    The pipe from the water heater to the kitchen is defective and needs to be repaired.

    Therefore the ll is responsible for replacing the pipes from the water heater to the kitchen unless he can.show the damage was caused by negligence on the part of the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usehername:
    Pipes are the responsibility of the ll.

    It says so in the tenancy agreement.

    The pipe from the water heater to the kitchen is defective and needs to be repaired.

    Therefore the ll is responsible for replacing the pipes from the water heater to the kitchen unless he can.show the damage was caused by negligence on the part of the OP.
    Now I haven't seen Kim's tenancy agreement, but mine doesn't say that. I have just checked mine and it says:

    "The Tenant is responsible for the repair and replace of doors, windows, kitchen and bathroom fittings, piping, drains and electricity apparatus in the Premises during the continuance of this Tenancy."

    I have seen provisions which are similar to what you suggested but often, the obligation is on the landlord to connect pipes, electricity and sewerage to the premises. What happens inside the premises is usually the tenant's responsibility.

    Our landlord has been very accommodating in the past with blockages and electrical repairs (even though he is not contractually obligated), but it seems Kim's isn't. That is entirely Kim's landlord's decision.

    I'd say her withholding rent thinking she has some sort of fundamental entitlement is a pretty awful idea.

    Have you seen her tenancy agreement?

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    My tenancy agreement states the ll is responsible for drains, cables and pipes.

    I have never seen a tenancy agreement that puts the responsibility for structural work on the tenant. It is not in the tenant's interest to spend money on repairing the ll's property. If I was a ll I certainly wouldn't want my tenants opening up the walls to replace the cables and pipe work with no idea what they've done or whether it's safe.

    If you've signed a lease taking on responsibility for paying for and carrying out the inevitable and very expensive, wear and tear repairs to the pipes you could be royally screwed by your ll.

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