My relatives rent out several properties and they encountered some bad tenants (in Cantonese called 租霸). The bad tenants stopped paying the rent for several months. My relatives would go to court and get the property back after 5 months. Just before the court ruling the bad tenant would dissappear and there is no way you could make him pay. I didn't ask my relatives for the details since I was just in listening mode but I guess it's just like the Small Claims Tribunal: winning the case and executing the ruling are 2 different things. Since then my relatives use another strategy: they would sign the rental agreement at the lawyer's office. Cost 2k and they demand the tenant to pay half of it. Since then no more bad tenants. Again I didn't ask for the details but maybe someone on here could explain this strategy.
Last edited by Drunken Master; 05-12-2015 at 12:35 PM.
Nevertheless I always use her email address and WhatsUp to send her all the updates (apparently her daughter can translate for her) and always add cc for real estate agents. She usually confirm by sending back an "ok".
When important letters - like end of the lease, is the real estate agent again who receive them "on paper" as well, and sign for receiving them on the name of the landlord.
Last edited by arathi; 05-12-2015 at 12:47 PM.
*first is my "reminder letter" to the landlady about the end of the lease - also stating that we are open to negotiate an early end of the lease - at her convenience, and inviting her for a pre-final flat inspection
*second - is the landlady saying "ok" and the real estate agents asking me to be home 'cause the land lady is visiting
*they also mention that - the landlady has made an appointment with the towngas representative for a second check - "she wants a witness who can prove profedsional advice" is exactly their WhatsUp message to me
*then is me being home, thinking positive and waiting for the landlady, her real estate agents and the towngas guy to arrive and hoping to get the stove matter and all the other things solved
*finaly is just me, facing a towngas guy with a big package in front of the door while struggling to understand what the hell is going on
Plus the real estate agents frantically WhatsUp me with "they replaced the stove already?"
Last edited by arathi; 05-12-2015 at 01:59 PM.
The flat was in the same condition as it was when we rented except for three small light bulbs I offered to pay for the replacement.
Suppose it was something damaged in the flat to be discovered not during the final inspections but in the fourth day after me leaving the flat - how was the landlord to know it was me and not the new tenant who did it?
That's a question only an HK landlord could answer!
Yet, I had to wait 5 weeks to get my (supposed to be returned within seven days!) deposit back.
Last edited by arathi; 09-12-2015 at 09:57 AM.
Maybe I can take this thread as a chance to briefly ask a question that we've had come up recently... We had talked previously with our landlord about getting a cat, he was hesitant but agreed if we paid an extra deposit and one-off cleaning fee (and we left it at that then...). We have since got a cat and will now have to follow up with this (he somehow found out -- no clue how, gossipy neighbor? evil building management guy?). As discussed before, the additional deposit he's asking for is $10,000 hkd (about half our rent) plus $2,000 cleaning fee (non-refundable). Is this reasonable?
We've been here 3 years, so any damage and painting, we think, would fall within the reasonable "wear and tear". The cats, which we've had a few months, so far have never damaged anything in the house (whereas we've made a few little dents here and there!), and I honestly can't imagine what the cats could do that would ever require $10,000 in damage. So now I feel this additional deposit request and situation with the cats will just offer him a chance to make excuses for us to start paying up when the time comes for the things that are actually under the usual wear and tear. I'm concerned we'll never see it again, even though so far we feel there has been no reason whatsoever for us to not get back our original deposit. We're not planning on moving, but we'll see how this plays out... So far he's been a pretty reasonable landlord, after all we've been here 3 years without unreasonable rent increases, and any repairs we've asked for have been taken care of in a timely manner!
Any thoughts? Are we getting screwed? (I should note his wife is a corporate lawyer. )