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    indigenous Hong Kong People (???) rights of land ownership

    Hi all

    I believe that a certain percent of fellow geoexpater are possibly originated or have roots from indigenous Hong Kong settlments (???) thus, they could answer my question, what is the process of inherit or apply rights of ownership of land?, who can apply, how do determine the differentials between digenous and non digenous, and if you have indigenous orgins, do your (or future) offsprings inherit still posses this right even though they was born outside of hong kong after 97 thus they can not obtain ROA status, or will your (or future) offsprings will need to be born in hong kong to be able to obtain ROA status and right of land ownership

    for those have no clue what i am on about, pls see attached link.

    Indigenous inhabitant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    many thanks


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    The right of land ownership applies to all descendents of indigenous villagers even those born outside of Hong Kong as long as they have 3stars on their HK IDs which also gives the right of abode (based on at least one parent being born in HK). However in order to exercise, this right and build a 700 square foot 3 story house (definition of small house), you need to request the land from the government or buy your own land within the same region as your ancestral village. Most villages have now either sold off all their land or have long waiting lists for government land that will probably never be met within their lifetime. There are developers who are willing to buy this "option" from indigenous villagers but this will depend on where your ancestral village is located. Note all of this depends on a HK ID as without this, the bureacractic processes cannot be completed.

    Since 1997, the government have changed their rules on the ROA (right of abode) versus permanent residency (3 stars) - if you did not visit HK within a year of 1997 then you lose your 3 stars (or will do when you come to renew your HK ID for the new smart card version).

    I also think that the PR (3 star status) is based in the fact that one of the parents were born in HK. For the offspring of those born outside of the HK then it is highly unlikey that they will be granted 3 stars and therefore the small lands right.

    I hope this long-winded response answered your question - also note these rules are all unwritten and liable to change at any point. In fact I had heard that they were thinking of abolishing the small houses act altogether.


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    i heard about this and suggested it to my mum, and she was telling me not to waste my time, haha!

    1 - it would take ages (40 or 50 years?) before they got down to getting me land, and it would probably be a small useless bit in the middle of nowhere as all the good sites have been taken already.

    2 - the administration and paperwork means it is only worth it if you have alot of free time. A problem i had was that our idigenous village did not really keep paper records with most deals done with gentlemens agreements, which means it was very difficult to prove anything. This may also be the case with other ABCs or BBCs whose parents left HK a long time ago. Alot of the villagers who could vouch for my dad are gone and many of those who remain only know of my dad by name (whoever's whoever's son etc.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by UK/HKboy
    i heard about this and suggested it to my mum, and she was telling me not to waste my time, haha!

    1 - it would take ages (40 or 50 years?) before they got down to getting me land, and it would probably be a small useless bit in the middle of nowhere as all the good sites have been taken already.

    2 - the administration and paperwork means it is only worth it if you have alot of free time. A problem i had was that our idigenous village did not really keep paper records with most deals done with gentlemens agreements, which means it was very difficult to prove anything. This may also be the case with other ABCs or BBCs whose parents left HK a long time ago.Alot of the villagers who could vouch for my dad are gone and many of those who remain only know of my dad by name (whoever's whoever's son etc.)
    +1

    I too was told my my mum not to waste my time, but I'd personally like to know how to approach this.

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    Hi guys, sorry for bringing this thread up from the depths but I thought it was relevant and I didn't want to start another one.

    I'm brit born chinese living in HK now but I have the right of abode, I have three stars on my HKID and my dad is an indigenous villager too, so I can request land from the government if I want.

    I want to ask a few questions, has anyone been through this process of applying for "small land right" and if so, how long does the process take? Also if you've applied, do you need to discuss with the village head first?

    I also found info here too about my interest

    http://hongkong.geoexpat.com/forum/5...ad42527-6.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by peblo
    Hi guys, sorry for bringing this thread up from the depths but I thought it was relevant and I didn't want to start another one.

    I'm brit born chinese living in HK now but I have the right of abode, I have three stars on my HKID and my dad is an indigenous villager too, so I can request land from the government if I want.

    I want to ask a few questions, has anyone been through this process of applying for "small land right" and if so, how long does the process take? Also if you've applied, do you need to discuss with the village head first?

    I also found info here too about my interest

    http://hongkong.geoexpat.com/forum/5...ad42527-6.html
    you can't request for land as this can only be distributed to you via your village head chief from the govt assuming there land avaliable , could take many years, even next decade, ??/right to build a rural house - you have this status already as your parents registered your name with the village chief when you was born.

    takes up to 2 years for application of building a rural house assuming you have land to buld on in the first place.

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    Start saving lads.


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    I don't get it.
    According to Centralline's definition this means any Chinese born in HK is am indigenous and thus has land rights in HK. Where does the village start, where does it end ?
    What about HK island Western District ? I want my plot of land there ~!~


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    Good luck you guys. Your village should keep an ancestral book with all the family tree of male members. You need that and your village chief to support your application. I haven't done it as my village is out of land and I need to find someone to sell me some. You can also transfer your right to build to another village, so it doesn't necessarily have to be in the same village.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyaki
    . You can also transfer your right to build to another village, so it doesn't necessarily have to be in the same village.
    i presume you have to buy someone's land to do so

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