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    Quote Originally Posted by justjoe86:
    You have got to be kidding?
    Same here. I would move to NY w/o hesitation (not because I like america but because in my field there are a lot of pretty interesting projects in South America and our NY office follows SA) but you would have to pay me a lot of money to move back to Europe/London.
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    Twice the money, after tax, I would consider...


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    I'd move to Toronto or Melbourne for the same amount of money (after tax). But it would take a bit more to entice me to NY and London. I've lived in NY (Manhattan), found the place incredible, but not sure I'd want to go back. London, when it's sunny, it's beautiful, but when it's dreary, it's really depressing.


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    Gilles said he wouldn't live in NY or London for DOUBLE the money he gets in HK.

    A) I do not believe it for one second
    B) If someone said the converse (I.e. they wouldn't live in HK even if their salary was doubled) could you imagine how over protective he'd get of his beloved HK?


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    Quote Originally Posted by justjoe86:
    Gilles said he wouldn't live in NY or London for DOUBLE the money he gets in HK.

    A) I do not believe it for one second
    B) If someone said the converse (I.e. they wouldn't live in HK even if their salary was doubled) could you imagine how over protective he'd get of his beloved HK?
    They have to come close to doubling a lot of professionals income to get them to move here - hence the housing allowances, schooling allowances etc etc. This is partly achieved by the lower taxes (although a portion of post-tax income is consumed by artificially high rent)...... I think if you paid many HK-based expat professionals their home salaries rather than a host package you wouldn't see them for dust.
    Last edited by TheBrit; 23-11-2011 at 10:55 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justjoe86:
    Gilles said he wouldn't live in NY or London for DOUBLE the money he gets in HK.

    A) I do not believe it for one second
    B) If someone said the converse (I.e. they wouldn't live in HK even if their salary was doubled) could you imagine how over protective he'd get of his beloved HK?
    Believe what you want... I've gone to work in Africa for less than half I made in HK but have no interest in London or NY at all.

    I have a good friend who wouldn't move to HK for all the money in the world and I also completely understand his point of view. He wouldn't move to NY or London either...
    Not everyone value the same things... and no place provides all things to all people.

    I don't really care if people don't like HK, it's their prerogative. What I find less appropriate is if a place is portrayed though rose colored glasses and another through a very dark prism.

    The US is not all about guns/crimes fat and ignorant people nor does it offer the best healthcare or education in the world to ALL its citizen. HK's failings and successes are the same.

    What each people experience is often quite different and what people choose to get hung up on or value is also another thing.

    In essence, I think that trying to label any place as "better" than another is just plain stupid because it's a matter of perspective. I don't think HK is better than NY or London but it currently suits my lifestyle and I would NEVER live in HK if I was stuck with only a couple of weeks holiday every year nor would I have come or would I stay without the financial incentives.
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    I'm not am expert in hk living or education by any means, but to have the best sort of life in hk, it seems like a good idea to bring your child up elsewhere (so they will get a fairly good school/life balance) but with a strong work ethic and discipline.
    Ensure they get a decent uni degree so that they can get into a nice big firm or business. Then they can move back to hk as expats and get the really good jobs. At least that seems to be the pattern. Hk locals seem to have a tougher time.


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    Seemed to be a good idea at the time. I was motivated more by lifestyle than financial (no dependants, no debt). One post was right, I did not do sufficient homework, especially on the working week. It's a bit of a shock to go from a 38hr week to 50hrs and 40 days leave pa down to just a week or so! Lived at the Regal Sha Tin for my short stay. No offense meant but I could hardly describe the NT's wide open spaces as anywhere near favourable even when the atmosphere allowed a lungful of relatively clean air. All countries are different and so are individual expectations. I got it wrong unfortunately, simple as that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gilleshk:
    Believe what you want... I've gone to work in Africa for less than half I made in HK but have no interest in London or NY at all.

    I have a good friend who wouldn't move to HK for all the money in the world and I also completely understand his point of view. He wouldn't move to NY or London either...
    Not everyone value the same things... and no place provides all things to all people.

    I don't really care if people don't like HK, it's their prerogative. What I find less appropriate is if a place is portrayed though rose colored glasses and another through a very dark prism.

    The US is not all about guns/crimes fat and ignorant people nor does it offer the best healthcare or education in the world to ALL its citizen. HK's failings and successes are the same.

    What each people experience is often quite different and what people choose to get hung up on or value is also another thing.

    In essence, I think that trying to label any place as "better" than another is just plain stupid because it's a matter of perspective. I don't think HK is better than NY or London but it currently suits my lifestyle and I would NEVER live in HK if I was stuck with only a couple of weeks holiday every year nor would I have come or would I stay without the financial incentives.
    Some places are definitely better than others, Somalia or France for example would you say well they are different rather than one being better than the other? More importantly of course people can say one place is better than another but it is purely their view not an absolute truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    Some places are definitely better than others, Somalia or France for example would you say well they are different rather than one being better than the other? More importantly of course people can say one place is better than another but it is purely their view not an absolute truth.
    No doubt that some places are considered better than other for many people but as I said and you parrot, it is never an absolute truth but a matter of opinion and values. One person's hell is someone else's paradise... Pattaya comes to mind!

    I would still never say that even Somalia is absolutely worse than any other places. You can compare certain elements and quantify them but I know plenty of people including myself who worked in difficult conditions in Africa and Haiti and found something they couldn't or didn't find in other places and it draws them back.

    Certainly it isn't for everyone and I wouldn't disagree that most people would prefer one over the other but it's not for me to try to make a judgment on what other people might like. However, it's pretty hard to read ridiculous statements like HK is less developed than cities in the West without cringing. It's a statement that is value laden and in my opinion based on a distorted view of what development means.

    There are plenty of people who come to HK and decide it's a better life than what they had somewhere else and stay. There are plenty of others that land here, hate it, only stay for the money and leave as soon as they can. Neither of them are wrong...I know many parents that decide to leave because they want their kids to have some of the same things they had when they grew up and feel it will be a better environment for their kids. I know others who decide to stay because they feel that HK will give their children better opportunities and more interesting experiences than if they went back. Neither of them are wrong...
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