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He is coming from Singapore FFS, not the North pole. In terms of comparing living standards its nothing to boast about. You'd think he had never been to Asia before.
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02-02-2012, 05:20 PM #51
Last edited by Loz_2; 02-02-2012 at 05:23 PM.
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02-02-2012, 05:23 PM #52
Loz
Singapore Men are not exactly the toughest of men either.
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02-02-2012, 05:29 PM #53
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02-02-2012, 05:39 PM #54
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02-02-2012, 05:47 PM #55
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02-02-2012, 10:26 PM #56
1. the NS that many mentioned is actually conscription, it happens to ALL MALES. if conscription is done in your country, then feel free to criticize. In my opinion, there are no weak soldiers (those who chose this profession), for they, like firemen, will run towards danger to save and protect those who run away from danger.
2. When you do criticize or stereotype, I hope you refrain from doing that to my countrymen. If you say I am weak or spoilt, I will not stop you because that is true and I do not mind negative comments. However, I do not represent my countrymen, I do not wish for you to judge them based on what you judged of me. Not even a statistician with all the data he needs can dare make a claim on which country has weak or strong people.
3. Why does being stressed at the bus, wanting to stay at a hotel or wanting to drive a sports car lead you to think that I am weak or NS did nothing to me? Being capable of hardship, struggles, stress and inconvenience does not mean one should look forward to it right? If you had a choice between hardship or luxury at no extra cost, who in the right mind would choose hardship? Now if I said hardship is cheaper than luxury or that hardship will make you stronger or that hardship will be living like everyone else, then we are now making weighted choices, and these choices weigh differently across different people. E.g. the rich prefers hotels, people in countryside prefers cars, the city people prefers MTR, the educated prefers higher paying job.
If my parents are slogging everyday to pay for my car in HK, then you can call me a spoilt brat, because after weighing the choices, it is better for me to go through the hardship, because after weighing the choices, owning a car becomes a burden.
Life is a lot about weighing the options, I believe many of you understand this.
Years ago, I ask myself why the rich are gambling away millions to the casinos.
They are rich and probably educated or smart, they should know that the house always win, so why continue losing millions?
Well, after hanging out with a few recently, I finally understood their reason. Its the very same reason why you choose to hang out at a bar, or go clubbing, or buy a branded bag, or buy an iPhone 4s. Because you can afford it and you want to enjoy and be happy. Gambling at the casinos for these rich people is not for any financial reason, its their leisure time, its their way to enjoy. Just as we all enjoyed. Imagine you were willing to buy a bag for $5000 and that was 0.1% of your total net worth. Then, 0.1% would be your spending power or limit. Similarly, the rich have similar spending powers; just that it is higher in absolute terms.
If you can spend x% of your wealth on hostel and MTR, why must you criticize me for spending x% of my wealth on hotels and cars? Why don't you go and criticize all the professors in HKUST for driving cars.
Before one criticizes the rich, or degrade those spoilt brats, always remember this, aren't we all striving to be affluent and prosperous too, aren't we all slogging day and night to give a better life to our children too? Do you want your child to be called a spoilt brat one day just because you fetched him to school?
Everyone yearns for a better life, so please stop judging those of whom you intend to be...Last edited by keyanddoor; 02-02-2012 at 10:31 PM.
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02-02-2012, 10:43 PM #57
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02-02-2012, 10:52 PM #58
I believe that by experiencing 'hardship' first hand, the experience gives you an in depth understanding of other and the world we live in. It's opening up to the world, being part of what people go through.
That said I think the main shock of people here is u consider taking public transport and doing housework as hardship. That just shows how sheltered you are and I truely think it may be beneficial for you to stat in hodyal and take bus instead of closing yourself off in a hotel cruising by real life in a car.
This maybe what you believe a freedom of choice in your eyes but it shows lack of social responsibility and sensitivity in yourside. Something people will not respect you. Things in Singapore that is ok to say - Like that race check box in every official form - is not 'right' universally, especially in cultures where your government spends millions to send the brightest students to study. And saying becacuse I have money I will spend whereever and whatever I want to is one of them.
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02-02-2012, 11:01 PM #59
I mean in HKD, my local friend in HKUST told me on average, every Hong Kong family has at least HKD $5,000,000 in net worth.
And I only quote that as an example, some people have higher spending limits (those young students wearing beats) while others have very low spending power despite their wealth, my grand uncle has a huge company with thousands of workers in Singapore but he still lives in the same HDB flat for the last 30 years (HDB flats are what 80-85% of singaporeans live in).
What I was saying is that everyone has a different willingness to spend, and that willingness also depends on the product or service itself. For example, some will choose to give to beggars, some don't, some are willing to take a quarter of their monthly salary to buy that special addition sneakers while others like me will not.
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02-02-2012, 11:20 PM #60
What on earth does it mean to say that "every something has something on average"? Do you have any understanding of what the word "average" means?
And while it might be true that the average (i.e. mean) net worth of a family in Hong Kong is $5M that figure would be heavily skewed by the small number of extraordinarily rich families. I would be very surprised indeed if the median individual net worth in Hong Kong was above HK$1M.
FYI The median individual income is below HK$10,000 per month, and the median household income is below $20,000 per month.
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