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Moving from London to HK with a young family, is it worth it?!

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  1. #41

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    Maybe he harks back to the days of pea soupers and has been around here ever since. That would make him about 96.


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    Quote Originally Posted by INXS:
    He's right you know. If you leave London they come in the night and move it and you can never, ever find it again. Plus, at 31, your life is nearly over...focus man!
    London will definitely be there, but his job and his wife's job may not be. With a young baby and plans for more this is something to consider. Given that the number 1 reason listed for moving to HK was to save money, I wonder if the OP has considered the lifestyle he would be sacrificing to make that happen.

    I don't know about you, but when my firstborn was at that age I wanted to go home and see her and watch her develop every evening.. they change so fast and you'll never get that time again. His commute will be longer than 30 minutes and as others have alluded to may HK companies expect you to work far longer hours than is normal in the Western world.

    Come here for the adventure - sure - just come in with your eyes wide open - you'll be taking a quality of living cut, you'll not save as much as you hoped as lower taxes are negated by higher rents and there is no escaping the pollution. Wife never having been to HK is a red flag too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    His commute will be longer than 30 minutes and as others have alluded to may HK companies expect you to work far longer hours than is normal in the Western world.
    And he may not get the same number of vacation days either, or not be able to take them...
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    I think you should come! Your wife will be in a very good position to get a much better job and will be well paid when she's ready to work again. She can easily pick up tutoring as well at all these little private schools which might accommodate her schedule with little ones. So there can easily be some extra income if necessary.
    We found the working hours to be *better* here than in London (for a bank job, that is).
    As for your wife being isolated, I think the Hong Kong community is very accessible and I found it very easy to quickly meet people and get out! (Unlike my experience when I moved to London with my partner, where I felt completely isolated.)
    When we came to Hong Kong, we had never visited before and had never even been to Asia, and so far things are working out well! (Save the money for the flights for rent...)
    Best of luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiaque:
    We found the working hours to be *better* here than in London (for a bank job, that is).
    As for your wife being isolated, I think the Hong Kong community is very accessible and I found it very easy to quickly meet people and get out! (Unlike my experience when I moved to London with my partner, where I felt completely isolated.) !
    Wow! I'd love to know which banks you worked for. Longer hours in London???! All the bankers I know (including myself!) worked relatively long hours in London but in HK the hours are just ridiculous. Longer and less productive.

    As for being isolated in London compared to HK, I don't think you're really comparing like with like. As a newcomer to London (as you were Elegiaque) it can be an unfriendly city, but when you're established there (as the OP is) it's a totally different experience. HK is much more transient (for expats) so people are more open to friendship as people come and go all the time.

    Personally I agree with The Brit. On 50k I think the OP is crazy to come here at his current stage in life, especially with a young baby. Certainly if the OP plans to move back to the UK again after a couple of years, I wouldn't do it. Not enough to gain by moving to HK and too much to lose leaving London.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiaque:
    We found the working hours to be *better* here than in London (for a bank job, that is).
    As for your wife being isolated, I think the Hong Kong community is very accessible and I found it very easy to quickly meet people and get out! (Unlike my experience when I moved to London with my partner, where I felt completely isolated.) !
    Wow! I'd love to know which banks you worked for. Longer hours in London???! All the bankers I know (including myself!) worked relatively long hours in London but in HK the hours are just ridiculous. Longer and less productive.

    As for being isolated in London compared to HK, I don't think you're really comparing like with like. As a newcomer to London (as you were Elegiaque) it can be an unfriendly city, but when you're established there (as the OP is) it's a totally different experience. HK is much more transient (for expats) so people are more open to friendship as people come and go all the time.

    Personally I agree with The Brit. On 50k I think the OP is crazy to come here at his current stage in life, especially with a young baby. Certainly if the OP plans to move back to the UK again after a couple of years, I wouldn't do it. Not enough to gain by moving to HK and too much to lose leaving London.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bibbju:
    Wow! I'd love to know which banks you worked for. Longer hours in London???! All the bankers I know (including myself!) worked relatively long hours in London but in HK the hours are just ridiculous. Longer and less productive.

    As for being isolated in London compared to HK, I don't think you're really comparing like with like. As a newcomer to London (as you were Elegiaque) it can be an unfriendly city, but when you're established there (as the OP is) it's a totally different experience. HK is much more transient (for expats) so people are more open to friendship as people come and go all the time.

    Personally I agree with The Brit. On 50k I think the OP is crazy to come here at his current stage in life, especially with a young baby. Certainly if the OP plans to move back to the UK again after a couple of years, I wouldn't do it. Not enough to gain by moving to HK and too much to lose leaving London.
    Apologies for the double post. Wifi on the ferry seems to be having a mini-bender :-(

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    Office in Wan Chai. Salary less than £50k pa (what's that 40k HKD per month?). 3 month old baby. Wife on maternity leave. Sounds horrid.

    Forget it. For say over £80k pa it might be worth it.


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    Hi,

    You are in a similar position to me, except it is my husband who has the job offer and it is me who is on maternity leave (4 month old baby). We are having similar discussions - I am worried about not getting a job whilst in Hong Kong (I'm a clinical psychologist) and then struggling to get one when we return to uk (which would prob be 3 years later). I am not sure that I have any advice but if you decide to move and so do we, maybe we could all hang out as our situations are so similar (we currently live in Lewisham, husband works at bank).


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    come to HK with wife and kid for 40K per month?

    if your wife gets a job then will be much better, but on that salary and with the shit quality of life that comes with working in a bank? no chance. don't do it.

    you will be unhappy. your wife will be unhappy because you are unhappy. then add in the stress of a young baby with no family around. it is a recipe for disaster if you ask me.

    but, and there is a but, the sense of the new and the feeling of adventure of being in a new and exciting city just might pull you through.


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