Best way to go about finding a job in HK?

[Xenophobic]

There are plenty of language mills around who will sponsor visas, but the only qualification they care about is that the applicant is obviously caucasian.

There are also a (very) few who care more about the applicant's experience and proven ability than about their having any more quals than the minimum required by the ImmD.

white worship in hk mills????? I never..........!!!!

To OP - if you ain't white - be very patient if you is looking for language mills!!!! i have so many SH** stories from local friends and their friends....................!

if you is white - anything is possible + negotiable. and i mean ANYTHING.

[INXS]

I think your experience is limited usehername, no offence.

[usehername]

I think your experience is limited usehername, no offence.

None taken.

Every person I know who teaches with a visa has a teaching qual.

You can't get a visa to teach *without* showing immd a teaching cert anymore, unless you have buckets of referenced, specialist experience.

The only person I know who teaches without any qualifications works in a tutorial centre with no visa. He just goes to macau.

[bookblogger]

There's loads of English teacher jobs available and they don't always want to see teaching qualifications from native speakers.

I've known lots of people for whom this is true, so I don't know why some of you think the above is a controversial statement.

[usehername]

I've known lots of people for whom this is true, so I don't know why some of you think the above is a controversial statement.

Getting a teaching job without teaching qualifications isn't hard.

Getting immd to give you visa to teach without any teaching qualifications is hard.

[jimbo]

Getting a teaching job without teaching qualifications isn't hard.

Getting immd to give you visa to teach without any teaching qualifications is hard.

Hence the number of illegals being employed by shitty little teaching centres

[bookblogger]

Getting a teaching job without teaching qualifications isn't hard.

There we are, we agree on a point that the OP was asking about, then.

[INXS]

Getting a teaching job without teaching qualifications isn't hard.

Getting immd to give you visa to teach without any teaching qualifications is hard.

Just now I am covering at a school at Ho Man Tin because the previous NET abandoned ship. British kid with no qualifications except one of those online TEFLs. Salary = $14000. He was recruited one year ago despite the Geoexpat $20000 rule. He was recruited by an agency.

In my experience most teachers who are sponsored are either EDB NETs or kids working in bottom of the barrel tutorial centred on extremely low salaries.

NETs with Dependant Visas are in much higher demand as they are seen as more stable, tending to be older people, often with kids of their own. Plus, centres/schools/kindergartens will pay a premium for 'Hong Kong experience'.

I have met several of these guys through this very site as I often use the PMs to speak to the many people who sign up to Geo. to ask for advice having been offered sponsorship and low salaries and/or long hours by a local centre/agency (it's usually really an agency)...

One I met had been sponsored as a missionary...she was supposed to be teaching religion at some kindergarten in Yuen Long, of course she was the English teacher! 12k per month, 6 days per week! She had no idea so we got her in to my centre and I gave her some free training, lesson planning, simple flashcard games, web resources, etc.

Anyway, as I say, that's my experience, yours may be different...I just know how these agencies operate, who is getting the plum jobs and so on...

[usehername]

There we are, we agree on a point that the OP was asking about, then.

No one ever disputed it. The issue was that the op should be aware that if he went that route he would probably not get a visa and would be working illegally. Most people looking for jobs would take that into consideration.

[HKITperson]

Hence the number of illegals being employed by shitty little teaching centres

You mean the ones where teachers have their name plastered over HK and with names such as English King and Supersonic Ken In their Armani suits and slick haircuts.
Top English teachers there can make millions in their first year.