good choice
they have now revealed that Biontech protects also against the variants
Seychelles used mostly Sinokak and - oops
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...st-2021-05-11/
Pfizer may make life easier
It won't matter
good choice
they have now revealed that Biontech protects also against the variants
Seychelles used mostly Sinokak and - oops
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...st-2021-05-11/
All the vaccines reduce the chance and the symptons but does not guarantee 100 percent .
Any firm report/news source for this nurse infecting others?
It's all to easy to regurgitate heresay without corroboration. The media can be just as bad at that, dishing up the scare portion and neglecting all the facts that might significantly alter ones view of the situation.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...nurse-infected
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...-down-14710310
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/south...own-ward-nurse
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/south...own-ward-nurse
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-...-outbreak.html
https://theindependent.sg/tan-tock-s...nd-3-patients/
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/vaccinated-nurse-infected<br><br>https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-ttsh-nurse-test-positive-ward-9d-locked-down-14710310<br><br><br>https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3131509/coronavirus-singapore-hospital-locks-down-ward-nurse<br><br>https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3131509/coronavirus-singapore-hospital-locks-down-ward-nurse<br><br>https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04-singapore-hospital-rare-covid-outbreak.html<br><br>https://theindependent.sg/tan-tock-s...nd-3-patients/
I'm sure the next generation of vaccines will continue to get better...but just saying, its not a 100 percent guarantee..but it is reducing virus spread so that is good.
None of the vaccines completely prevent getting sick or transmitting the virus. That's why most countries are not throwing their borders open and allowing vaccinated people to do whatever the hell they want. That's even more true for countries in this part of the world that have a much lower risk tolerance.
What all vaccines do virtually perfectly is prevent serious illness so until a majority of population has been vaccinated there will be no significant easing particularly with low risk tolerance countries in this part of the world. Some countries are prepared to accept the higher risks because of money/jobs. It's a choice and in a way they are providing a service by acting like guinea pigs for the rest of the world.
I think it's utterly misplaced to be focussing on the next generation of vaccines, and the WHO and medical bodies around the globe agree.
The vaccines we have are perfectly adequate for the job at hand.
I have a few problems with the articles you posted:
1) None of them say which vaccine she received (in fact much worse than that, they all refer to THE vaccine as though they're all the same.) What the fuck is that about, other than attempting to obscure the truth about relative vax efficacy's?
2) There is no proof that the vaccinated nurse infected anyone else, only that she is positive herself and mildly symptomatic.
You made the leap that she infected others, @dinosaurs88 which was the only part of your comment I was particularly interested in, and what I was specifically asking about.
We all know you can still test +'ve post vax, the questions are, can you infect others post vax with Pfizer? What about Astra? or Sinovac etc etc? But most importantly, what is the prevalence of that occurring in the real world?
It maybe that she has infected others, it may be that she played no role in infecting others, or played a small bit-part role in it.
Everyone assumes that those infected are infected by one other person, that's highly unlikely to be true in all cases. Cumulative infection achieved by higher exposure is defnitely part of the mechanism, logic points to that being more than one or multiple sources in some environments.
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