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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix2:
    an article. How about you read a litltle selection of medical journals.

    Just googe

    fructose hemoglobin glycation
    high hba1c
    advance glycation end products.

    You are what you eat.

    I remember how a friend of my parents, her and her family ran a fruit shop, telling me how fruit was great, and how she gave it to her diabetic aunt fruit daily.... She was surprirsed her aunt died young.

    Manslaughter covers murder by ignornace, you give someone something that kills them, i wonder when it will be broadened.
    The article, if you'd have cared to read it mentions and links to specific recent academic research papers as further proof.

    But hey, you mentioned it, let's "googe" some real research papers, to use your words:
    Highlights

    Umbrella review was conducted to evaluate the relationship between fruit intake and multiple health outcomes.

    Increasing the fruit intake by 1 serving/d could reduce the risks of CVD, stroke, CHD and oral cancer by 3%, 8%, 4% and 49%.

    Increasing the fruit intake by 200 g/d could reduce the risk of breast cancer by 6%.

    Increasing the fruit intake to 100–500 g/d could reduce the risk of type 2 diabetes mellitus by 8%–12%.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...24224421005471
    Research also shows the direct benefit fruit consumption has on prevention of diabetes:
    However, sugars in fruit and vegetables are natural sugars and will not be metabolized in the same manner as refined sugars. 71 The multitude of effects of fruits and vegetables such as anti-oxidative, anti-inflammatory, antihypertensive, anti-dyslipidaemic, anti-hyperglycaemic, and modulation of the composition and metabolic activity of gut microbiota 72,73 may be implicated in controlling the blood sugar in patients with diabetes. Therefore, as optimum nutrition has an integral role in glycemic control of patients with diabetes decreasing the intake of fizzy drinks and fast food, increasing daily intake of fresh fruits and vegetables will have a clinically relevant protective effect and aid in achieving the recommended glycemic target.
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...g_Co-Epidemics


    Fruit contains sugars (i.e., glucose and fructose), which may have negative affects on glycaemic control. However, the natural sugars in fruit may not be metabolized in the same way as refined sugars because other beneficial nutrients such as dietary fiber or phytochemicals may interact with the natural sugars in glycemic response [29,38]. The negative correlation between fruit intake and blood glucose levels in our study also confirms this point.
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...xpY2F0aW9uIn19

    In other words, please educate yourself on the research at hand, and do try to eat more fruit to remain healthy. The story about "your friend's aunt" is what an academic researcher in any field would call anecdotal and statistical negligible.
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    Yellow passionfruit from Ecuador


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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckster007:
    That still confuses the heck out of me, I know its defined as a fruit but the only way I ever eat them is when its been melted down in a curry or stew. when i see people eat it like an apple NO THANKS!!! even when im given a BLT, i throw the T out
    I eat tomatoes like apple; sprinkle either a little salt on it, or alternatively sugar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix2:
    Not quite, since you didn't have any reaction on the many academic research papers I posted, and you answered with one measly weird youtube podcast video. What's next, a Joe Rogan video?Any academic would laugh at this. I really hoped for something substantial. Do you also take doctor advice from youtube?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatts:
    Not quite, since you didn't have any reaction on the many academic research papers I posted, and you answered with one measly weird youtube podcast video. What's next, a Joe Rogan video?Any academic would laugh at this. I really hoped for something substantial. Do you also take doctor advice from youtube?
    Because, I would find that 80% of medical papers on the NIH are not good enough to wipe your arse on. The possibility of mistakes, bias, errors, i never ending, appart from when there is also money in the way.... I on'y looked at the on of 6% breast cancer, they are a based and justified on statistical/research errors... I can start providing you solid papers on fructose, but I have to depend on you or anyone else to be able to understand them to be able to have an valuable interchange. Given the reception I won't bother.

    Dr Lustig... is the steven hawkins of metabolism, he communicates very clearly and honestly if you don't get it saying there is little point in going back and forth. Particularly on a black and white topic like fructrose that has been done studied and buried....

    You are always going to have the American Fruti framers association paying for research telling you it was good. Like a friend of the family her family owned a fruit stall for over 60 years.... She kept feeding fruit to her sick diabetic aunt, her last relative and strangely enough she died in her 60's of diabetes related complications. Most people don't know they are diabetics, in her case they knew and stilll gave her lots of fruit daily.

    There is fructose, in vegetables (carrots, onions, sweet corn, peas, bell pepers), palm/coconut sugar, agave, honey. Consume at your own risk. When you see the word fructose syrup, yeah that shit is the best way instant hyperglicaemia. The fruit "It is healthy" is so imprinted on us by the media.

    Have any of you put a Continous Glucose Monitor and tried the different fruits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix2:
    Because, I would find that 80% of medical papers on the NIH are not good enough to wipe your arse on.
    Oh yes, 80% of medical papers by academics that come to conclusions counter to your pre-conceived youtube notions, are bad lol. As I said I smell anti-vaxx, I would stop going to doctors if I were you.
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    Dr. Lustig, sounds funny


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elefant&Castle:

    Pomegranate. Umm, whatever, too much work for too little reward...

    Says only 3 percent are...pomegranate. But probably gives 33 different fruits so each of us is only...3 percent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrison:
    Dr. Lustig, sounds funny
    Lustig literally means funny in Swedish.
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