Since you have shown me yours
Behold the majesty that is mine!
a rock maple butter knife
a massive seven and a half inches long!
n: tool with a thin sharp blade that is used for cutting
OK, but that's not what I meant.
What? you told me to "define knife"!
What I meant is, to me a knife is the thing I used to cut butter with, when I was still eating butter.
These injuries of course cannot be done with a knife used to cut butter. These are injuries from machetes.
"Isn't a machete a "large knife (also matchet)".
Indeed, but my point is that you should put things into perspectives. If one guy (on crack, or loony) attacks someone (policeman or not) with a machete I think the person has the right to defend himself by shooting the guy. If a guy attacks someone (policeman or not) with a knife used to cut butter he doesn't have the right to shoot at the guy.
its easy to say that sitting at a desk playing on your pc, when u get into a fight or altercation, things dont really go as you would think it would in my opinion.
The split second people have to make decisions is something that police train for but some are far better than others and some are clearly poor decision makers. There are lots of horror stories of police who use deadly force wrongly and some dead police who waited too long and got themselves killed. Thinking you can disarm a nut with a knife is naive. Now you can sometimes talk a person out of it but it depends.
Killing a guy with knife is hardly going to get the police on criminal charges though as it meets the criteria in common law anyway for use of deadly force.
I knew police who were using hollow points back in the mid 70s which were not department issue or authorized. Despite my suggesting they shouldn't their view was that if they had to fire their gun, what came out the end of it was irrelevant to the real question they'd face and that was: was it a justifiable use of deadly force? Oh why they used hollow points was that the standard .38 ammo had a tendency to go through fleshy parts of the body and in a city this could mean they'd kill or harm innocent people. The hollow point would generally stay in the target and of course would do maximize damage with fewer shots Remember that under fire, even an expert marksman might not shoot straight.
Football16: I was messing around with a plastic dagger with one of my (untrained) acquaintances last week and tried to use my hand-to-hand techniques to keep the blade off me. I ended up getting stabbed in the butt not once but twice. At least getting stabbed in the glutes wouldn't be lethal. Then again, I just deflected the blade rather than taking him to the ground or hitting him because I didn't want to risk hurting him. The moral of the story is if you're going to take someone with a knife on, you're probably going to get cut.
Jacketed hollowpoint ammunition is standard nowadays, but very often, the ammo fails to expand and penetrates just like a full metal jacketed round. With high velocity calibers, you are still going to be at risk of overpenetration, even with JHPs. Maybe there is something to the good 'ol .45 ball ammo a lot of Americans pack with pride--the lower velocity and higher weight means less penetration but more ballistic energy on impact.
Last edited by jayinhongkong; 28-04-2009 at 07:40 PM.