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    Quote Originally Posted by huja:
    Could be bogus. But if it were a government planted story, the kidney harvesters would have been foreigners, not Chinese. And they would have stiffed the kid.
    And it's not so crazy. Selling organs goes in China. I'm sure there are plenty of stories about people selling an organ then spending the money on stupid stuff - gambling, wimmin, drugs, ipads, whatever

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    The kid was a minor, I would assume that he needed parents consent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by limepickle:
    And it's not so crazy. Selling organs goes in China. I'm sure there are plenty of stories about people selling an organ then spending the money on stupid stuff - gambling, wimmin, drugs, ipads, whatever
    Morality aside, there is a reasonably good libertarian argument to make that selling one's excess organs should be perfectly legal. Of course, we expect the government to step in and 'protect us from ourselves' which denies us the right to make that decision in the first place.

    Before the hate mail begins, I will add that what happened to this kid is terrible; he obviously isn't very bright and at 14 shouldn't have been allowed to make that decision anyway; he apparently gave up a kidney for a consumer product that will be literally worthless in five years time. I thought it was interesting also that the clinic that did the operation was apparently 'renting' the space from the local hospital, and now apparently the folks who did this can't be traced. Of course, the local hospital administrators and government officials likely get a cut of all organ sales, but nobody is going to work very hard to trace that flow of cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freetrader:
    Morality aside, there is a reasonably good libertarian argument to make that selling one's excess organs should be perfectly legal
    I tend to agree with that view, frankly.

    (for adults, of course)

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    I cannot see why people are surprised.
    There was a worse story (China Daily - Highlights from the Provinces ) some years ago, of a young couple who had a child and could not support it as they both had no job. They asked the parents to help and found none because they had not accepted the marriage. The couple sold the baby for 4,000RMB. The husband immediately went out and bought................ and IPhone !!

    When we are out with our daughter ( 1 yr old this week - yeah - jelly and ice cream party on Friday ) we often get admiring comments to which my wife asks " how many Iphone do you think she is worth." Got to love Chinese humour.


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    I actually think you may be onto something here so long as were talking about consenting adults who make a full informed decision to sell one of their organs. I do wonder about what sorts of legal remedies governments should make available to enforce contracts to sell organs, though. I think you'd have to limit the remedy to damages and not specific performance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pin:
    Story doing the rounds at the moment:

    Chinese Teen Sells His Kidney For an iPad 2 (video)
    What if an IPAD3, 4 or 5 comes out?

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    he should have opted to have upgrades for the rest of his remaining life


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    Quote Originally Posted by dansande:
    I actually think you may be onto something here so long as were talking about consenting adults who make a full informed decision to sell one of their organs. I do wonder about what sorts of legal remedies governments should make available to enforce contracts to sell organs, though. I think you'd have to limit the remedy to damages and not specific performance.
    I thnk I'd sell a kidney. It'd be for a lot more than RMB3000 though.

    750k pounds sterling for a kindney, an eye for a cool million, my left nut for 100 grand.

    It's the sale of the century

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    Quote Originally Posted by mengfei:
    he should have opted to have upgrades for the rest of his remaining life
    Something like a Microsoft Enterprise agreement where one is entitled to free upgrades?