Methosb you seem to be saying religious = fundamentalist. Really?
Methosb you seem to be saying religious = fundamentalist. Really?
My mistake. I assumed that "If they're Muslims, well, let's just say keep an eye on the knife drawer and the fertilizer..." is somehow more offensive to muslims than "if they're Christians my understanding is that they should either have nothing to do with you or try as hard as possible to convert you" is to Christians. Sometimes my comprehension isn't very good you see.
I'm fascinated by your character dissection. Must I really be a Muslim or a "typical lefty hand-wringer" to take offence at your input in this conversation?
I shouldn't really allow myself to be goaded though. Some intelligent conversation is being made in this thread. Unfortunately none of it comes from you.
Spiritual is believing that there is a higher power of some sort.
Taking good moral ideas from a religious text is not religious.
If someone doesn't follow the dogma or texts of a religion how can they call themselves religious? A religion is a defined set of rules and beliefs. If you don't follow the rules or believe that the stories in the religious texts are true then you are not religious.
Accurate answer... "spiritual" has about a million contradicting definitions.
The problem you have is that you're coming from a position where you believe that religion holds some privileged position; the right not to be offended.I shouldn't really allow myself to be goaded though. Some intelligent conversation is being made in this thread. Unfortunately none of it comes from you.
For me, anyone who believes that their prophet went to heaven on a flying unicorn or Noah's Ark in the face of science is demanding to be ridiculed.
Right now, religious people, moderate religious people are indoctrinating children into this world of terror, hate, misogyny and fantasy. You feel it's not my right to criticise these people or poke fun....?
Please substantiate this claim. Would you be so kind to refer me to the post where I suggested that religion cannot be offended? Go on. I double dog dare you.
Please also answer the following. Do you consider think
"If they're Muslims, well, let's just say keep an eye on the knife drawer and the fertilizer..."
is proportionately offensive as
"if they're Christians my understanding is that they should either have nothing to do with you or try as hard as possible to convert you"?
I have to bear in mind that two years ago, a fully grown adult man used to follow religion because his grannie told him to (and now that he has 'seen' the light, he's an 'expert' having 'read some books') so I forgive you for not understanding.
I've no problem with criticism of a religion's ideals. However, you're marking muslims as a whole as knife murderers and bombers. That's something quite different. Some might call that racist.