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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    One great example is the REACH system for registering chemicals - we used to use the EU system and contributed a fraction of its development costs.. .now we have to build and run our own and companies need dual submissions to EU and UK systems - costing 1.5-3.5bn for the industry as well as the Government costs

    https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/...016041.article

    Madness piled on madness wrapped in even more red tape than before.
    You don't need to be a member of the EU to be accepted to be part of European Chemicals Agency which is the body that governs REACH. A number of Non-EU European countries are part of the REACH approval process. I could be wrong but I think even Taiwan were offered a pay to play deal to use the ECHA data for their equivalent of REACH to reduce total cost for their jurisdiction.

    The EU choose not to offer such access to the UK which is well within their rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    You don't need to be a member of the EU to be accepted to be part of European Chemicals Agency which is the body that governs REACH. A number of Non-EU European countries are part of the REACH approval process. I could be wrong but I think even Taiwan were offered a pay to play deal to use the ECHA data for their equivalent of REACH to reduce total cost for their jurisdiction.

    The EU choose not to offer such access to the UK which is well within their rights.
    Yes, a direct consequence of Brexit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    Yes, a direct consequence of Brexit.
    Yes, Asian countries getting preferential agreements over European countries for political reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Yes, Asian countries getting preferential agreements over European countries for political reasons.
    Brexit was/is politics incarnate - If 'political reasons' are a shoddy excuse for trade preferences, then Brexit must be the sorriest excuse of them all.

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    Meanwhile, we’ve taken control of our Borders.

    https://news.sky.com/story/record-12...onday-12679654

    Record 1,295 people spotted crossing the Channel in small boats on Monday


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    Quote Originally Posted by ArrynField:
    Meanwhile, we’ve taken control of our Borders.

    https://news.sky.com/story/record-12...onday-12679654

    Record 1,295 people spotted crossing the Channel in small boats on Monday
    What is the link to Brexit?

    Illegal immigration occurs in most developed countries with a route that doesn't involve the wide open seas. Didn't the EU have about 900,000 illegal immigrants this year. Is that due to Brexit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    What is the link to Brexit?

    Illegal immigration occurs in most developed countries with a route that doesn't involve the wide open seas. Didn't the EU have about 900,000 illegal immigrants this year. Is that due to Brexit?
    I'm surprised this would have to be explained.

    Probably the single biggest reason Brexit occurred was because of illegal immigration.

    The UK left the EU in many senses as a reaction to the not so well educated believing it would prevent illegal (and legal) immigration - I know, stupid right!

    Leaving the EU has done little to prevent illegal immigration, but it's had a lot of negative consequences elsewhere.

    That's the link to illegal immigration.

    Clear enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sage:
    I'm surprised this would have to be explained.

    Probably the single biggest reason Brexit occurred was because of illegal immigration.

    The UK left the EU in many senses as a reaction to the not so well educated believing it would prevent illegal (and legal) immigration - I know, stupid right!

    Leaving the EU has done little to prevent illegal immigration, but it's had a lot of negative consequences elsewhere.

    That's the link to illegal immigration.

    Clear enough?
    I would suggest the remain camp conflated immigration controls with xenophobia to demonise the Brexit camp but illegal immigration being stopped was never an argument for Brexit and when raised was immediately put down as being a non-Brexit issue.

    The issue was legal migration and to suggest the majority of voters were confused between the very small number of illegal immigrants v the large numbers of legal migrants is again probably playing the Brexit voters were too stupid to vote card.

    https://www.itv.com/news/update/2016...rants-amnesty/

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKCN0X10U7

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    illegal immigration being stopped was never an argument for Brexit and when raised was immediately put down as being a non-Brexit issue.
    I'd suggest you are talking utter bollocks, fortunately some of us are old enough to remember UKIP and their Brexit campaigning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    I'd suggest you are talking utter bollocks, fortunately some of us are old enough to remember UKIP and their Brexit campaigning.

    My deepest sympathies. You must be annoyed with yourself if you voted Brexit based on the insinuation of an image on a poster. There were 1000's of other references about a wide gamut of issues that would have given you a better idea of the pros and cons of Brexit. All of the main Brexit parties were promoting a points based system to widen the legal immigration routes while reducing workers from lower level EU countries.

    You are in a very tiny minority who took an emotive populist image behind a man speaking about a wider immigration policies as the singular message. We all make mistakes so don't be to disappointed in yourself.