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Sweden's "First Feminist Government" wears the Hijab in Iran

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    Sweden's "First Feminist Government" wears the Hijab in Iran

    https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/stat...98952761016320

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    I think it raises a good moral conundrum - do you follow the host countries' customs out of respect, even when they supposedly go against your own? Or do you even go at all?

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    Way I see it, no one's twisting Sweden's arm to go to Iran. "My house, my rules" type situation.

    If the Iranians go to Stockholm and want all females to wear the hijab in their presence then they can fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkboy:
    Way I see it, no one's twisting Sweden's arm to go to Iran. "My house, my rules" type situation.

    If the Iranians go to Stockholm and want all females to wear the hijab in their presence then they can fuck off.
    $500 says that if the Iranians went to Sweden and asked these ridiculous women to wear the hijab they would.

    Reminds of that 'feminist' prick Trudeau sitting in a Mosque and 'saluting the sisters' upstairs...

    It's all too familiar:

    "The hijab represents freedom."

    "Gender segregation is an expression of diversity."

    "Arbeit Macht Frei"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkboy:
    Way I see it, no one's twisting Sweden's arm to go to Iran. "My house, my rules" type situation.

    If the Iranians go to Stockholm and want all females to wear the hijab in their presence then they can fuck off.
    I agree, but I think the criticism is that a supposed "feminist government" is seen wearing the hijab, which westerners consider to be a symbol of oppression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyross:
    https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/stat...98952761016320

    https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/stat...01869794639873

    https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/stat...576?forceembed

    https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/stat...136?forceembed

    https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/stat...696?forceembed

    I think it raises a good moral conundrum - do you follow the host countries' customs out of respect, even when they supposedly go against your own? Or do you even go at all?
    You don't go. There should be no relations with appalling countries like Iran and I weep for the millions of women forced to cover in that country who must be devastated to see former liberal allies kowtowing to their male masters in such a craven manner...appalling stuff...just dreadful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyross:
    which westerners consider to be a symbol of oppression.
    You're in for a rude awakening sir!

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    While I am against enforced dress codes I go with the when in Rome attitude. At my kids' school security will stop you going in if you are breaking the strict dress code rules, there is even a large sign on the gate showing what the nuns will not accept mostly for women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    While I am against enforced dress codes I go with the when in Rome attitude. At my kids' school security will stop you going in if you are breaking the strict dress code rules, there is even a large sign on the gate showing what the nuns will not accept mostly for women.
    The Iranian state denies equality to millions of women and their is clearly a movement among the young, in particular, to resist (my stealthy freedom)...what message do we send them when we normalise relations with their oppressors? What message does it send when western feminists where the symbol of their oppression?

    No. We can't have it both ways...we can either be feminists or collaborators with the enemy, not both.

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    I don't see the problem with someone wearing a Hijab in Iran. If you are a guest in someone's country to abide by the rules. The issue is with going to Iran in the first place. The "feminist" government should refuse to deal with oppressive regimes. But then, somehow the Hijab became the symbol if freedom in the eyes of the liberals.


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    Feminism is about women making their own decisions. The fact that we have a delegation of educated women leaders show up in Iran representing their country does way more to the liberation of women in Iran than refusing to go, which would be a decision made on the diplomatic level, so it wouldn't even make the news in Iran. The fact that Western men come on this forum and, instead of being proud of these educated women, they have a need to criticize what these women are wearing is in itself proof how backward and sexist their thinking is. It's about their choice, not yours.


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