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    I saw this and thought it eerily familiar.
    I’ve taken the liberty of adapting it for your amusement...

    It must be incredibly frustrating as an Islamist Jihadist not to have your views and motives taken seriously by the societies you terrorize, even after you have explicitly and repeatedly stated them. Even worse, those on the regressive left, in their endless capacity for masochism and self-loathing, have attempted to shift blame inwardly on themselves, denying the Jihadists even the satisfaction of claiming responsibility. It’s like a bad Monty Python sketch:

    --- Jihadist tired of not being given credit ---

    JIHADIST: “We did this because our holy texts exhort us to do it.”

    civil_servant: “No you didn’t.”

    “Wait, what? Yes we did…”

    “No, this has nothing to do with religion. You guys are just using religion as a front for social and geopolitical reasons.”

    “WHAT!? Did you even read our official statement? We give explicit Quranic justification. Our leader is an Islamic scholar. This is jihad, a holy crusade against pagans, blasphemers, and disbelievers.”

    “No, this is definitely not a Muslim thing. You guys are not true Muslims, and you defame a great religion by saying so.”

    “Huh!? Who are you to tell us we’re not true Muslims!? Islam is literally at the core of everything we do, and we have implemented the truest most literal and honest interpretation of its founding texts. It is our very reason for being.”

    “Nope. We created you. We installed a social and economic system that alienates and disenfranchises you, and that’s why you did this. We’re sorry.”

    “What? Why are you apologizing? We just slaughtered you mercilessly in the streets. We targeted unwitting civilians – disenfranchisement doesn’t even enter into it!”

    “Listen, it’s our fault. We don’t blame you for feeling unwelcome and lashing out.”

    “Seriously, stop taking credit for this! We worked really hard to pull this off, and we’re not going to let you take it away from us.”

    “No, we nourished your extremism. We sent too many troops. We accept full blame.”

    “OMG, how many people do we have to kill around here to finally get our message across?”


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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerSun
    OMG, how many people do we have to kill around here to finally get our message across?
    So you're saying they're killing for validation? Why would you give it to them? Why should we give their ideas any credibility?

    Did anyone give credit to Breivik for his twisted, radical views?

    Norwegians to protest Breivik, singing song he hates | Reuters

    On Wednesday he railed at psychiatrists who diagnosed him as psychotic, saying their report contained “evil, fictional inventions”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant
    So you're saying they're killing for validation? Why would you give it to them? Why should we give their ideas any credibility?

    Did anyone give credit to Breivik for his twisted, radical views?

    Norwegians to protest Breivik, singing song he hates | Reuters
    It's not giving them validation.
    It's recognizing motivations for what they profess them to be.
    Hard to address a problem when you live in "he who must not be named" worldview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerSun
    I saw this and thought it eerily familiar.
    I’ve taken the liberty of adapting it for your amusement...

    It must be incredibly frustrating as an Islamist Jihadist not to have your views and motives taken seriously by the societies you terrorize, even after you have explicitly and repeatedly stated them. Even worse, those on the regressive left, in their endless capacity for masochism and self-loathing, have attempted to shift blame inwardly on themselves, denying the Jihadists even the satisfaction of claiming responsibility. It’s like a bad Monty Python sketch:

    --- Jihadist tired of not being given credit ---

    JIHADIST: “We did this because our holy texts exhort us to do it.”

    civil_servant: “No you didn’t.”

    “Wait, what? Yes we did…”

    “No, this has nothing to do with religion. You guys are just using religion as a front for social and geopolitical reasons.”

    “WHAT!? Did you even read our official statement? We give explicit Quranic justification. Our leader is an Islamic scholar. This is jihad, a holy crusade against pagans, blasphemers, and disbelievers.”

    “No, this is definitely not a Muslim thing. You guys are not true Muslims, and you defame a great religion by saying so.”

    “Huh!? Who are you to tell us we’re not true Muslims!? Islam is literally at the core of everything we do, and we have implemented the truest most literal and honest interpretation of its founding texts. It is our very reason for being.”

    “Nope. We created you. We installed a social and economic system that alienates and disenfranchises you, and that’s why you did this. We’re sorry.”

    “What? Why are you apologizing? We just slaughtered you mercilessly in the streets. We targeted unwitting civilians – disenfranchisement doesn’t even enter into it!”

    “Listen, it’s our fault. We don’t blame you for feeling unwelcome and lashing out.”

    “Seriously, stop taking credit for this! We worked really hard to pull this off, and we’re not going to let you take it away from us.”

    “No, we nourished your extremism. We sent too many troops. We accept full blame.”

    “OMG, how many people do we have to kill around here to finally get our message across?”
    It might not be very difficult to have something look like a jihadist attack, you know.

    Finally, We Know About the Moscow Bombings | by Amy Knight | The New York Review of Books
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerSun
    Hard to address a problem when you live in "he who must not be named" worldview.
    You mean the US occupation?

    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...d-war-on-iraq/

    Even this guy admits it.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-34630380

    When can we see your admission?
    Last edited by civil_servant; 03-09-2017 at 09:34 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerSun
    It's recognizing motivations for what they profess them to be.
    Motivations?

    Let me see...

    Oil, taxation, extortion....

    What more does one need?

    Map of Syria shows what ISIS is truly fighting for - Business Insider

    Too bad you became a sucker for their propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant
    Motivations? Let me see...
    Oil, taxation, extortion....
    So you're dropping the troop deployment excuse and going for oil?
    Why do you conflate the means with the motivations?



    Done with u on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerSun
    So you're dropping the troop deployment excuse and going for oil?
    Why do you conflate the means with the motivations?



    Done with u on this.
    This says otherwise.

    ISIS terrorists quit because they're not getting the luxury cars and women they were promised - Mirror Online

    Some fled after they were disappointed by the "quality of life" in territory controlled by IS and realised that the image of luxury goods and cars that lured them to join in the first place had failed to materialise.
    They came for a thug life, not Allah. Also, not sure why ISIS would hire them. Wouldn't they just be considered apostates in their eyes?
    Last edited by civil_servant; 03-09-2017 at 11:18 AM.
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