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  1. #31

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    Facebook is only minor evil I think. I don't use my real name there (fuck the policy), I don't post anything I wouldn't want the NSA/FBI/MI6/Xi Jinping to read, I use a separate email and in general don't trust a thing I see there.

    But Google, via Gmail, has me by the cojones. And I don't have a good answer on how to deal with that


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    Quote Originally Posted by kimwy66:
    #DeleteFacebook is now trending on Twitter.
    Even Whatsapp's co-founder agrees:

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/20/1...ebook-whatsapp

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    Just don't share anything you don't what others to find out about.

    Just expect that anything you do or say will be public. Even if you say something off the record, there may be someone filming on their phone. Even if you use a different email address, you can be found if someone wants to find you. Even if you go off the grid, you can be found if someone wants you enough.

    shri and Fiona in HKG like this.

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    Follow the money.
    Check out the Medallion Fund that was for RENTEC (Renaissance hedge fund) internal major staff use only.
    The Medallion averaged 71.8% growth per year! That’s why Mercer is a billionaire.
    Mercer's White House connections hang over IRS' attempts to collect $7 billion from his hedge fund | McClatchy Washington Bureau
    Billionaire Robert Mercer did Trump a huge favor. Will he get a payback?

    But the IRS wised up:
    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvo...ittle-tax-help
    Abuse of Structured Financial Products: Misusing Basket Options to Avoid Taxes and Leverage Limits: Testimony Before the U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs

    So the IRS hit the Medallion fund which had made a profit of USD 34 BILLION with a tax bill of USD 6.8 BILLION

    Mercer bought Breitbart, Mercer bought Cambridge Analytica, Mercer funded Trump campaign and used Cambridge Analytica brought Bannon across from Breitbart to run the campaign.
    Mercer has a signed IP rights deal copy of which revealed in the Guardian with the owners (Massingham) of AggregateiQ of BC Canada
    Whistleblowqer Wylie worked with AggregateiQ and then Cambridge Analytica.
    Nix is a director of CA and also SCL.
    SCL has contracts with the militaries of numerous Governments for many years.
    AggregateiQ was paid more than 50% of all campaign funds from Vote Leave and competitor Leave in the Brexit campaign.
    Nix admitted that AiQ and CA shared the same database.
    So did a billionaire and his daughter install an unstable criminal with history of Russian funding (Rybolovlev paid him USD 96m for a crap Palm Beach mansion sight unseen that Trump got at auction for USD41m at a time when in 2008 Trump was headed for his 7th Chapter 11) DJT mutt and jeff sons admitted Russian accounted for a lot of their income in 2008. Many Russian bought condos from them with cash and funded golf courses when no USA Banks were willing to lend to repeat Chapter 11 DJT and his failed casinos and fake university. Deutsche Bank was caught for Russian money laundering - they are DJT's (and J Kushner's) biggest creditor. Funny how Mercer's yacht & Rybo's yacht were seen anchored alongside each other in BVI last year.
    This says it all one could summise:
    https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...-mercer-227799
    Trump is just a vehicle. If you remember they wanted to use Cruz as a vehicle before that.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...appeals-office
    Mercer Hedge Fund Tax Dispute Moves to IRS Appeals Office
    https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-...0ZP3D320150709
    A contested $6.8 billion tax bill hangs before Trump administration - Business Insider
    Super-Successful Hedge Fund Reportedly a Huge Tax Dodger
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...al-derivatives

    Trump replaced the IRS boss with his own appointee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UK/HKboy:
    Just don't share anything you don't what others to find out about.

    Just expect that anything you do or say will be public. Even if you say something off the record, there may be someone filming on their phone. Even if you use a different email address, you can be found if someone wants to find you. Even if you go off the grid, you can be found if someone wants you enough.
    I've listened to a few podcasts on this subject. A few months ago a topic came up where tech guys were wondering if facebook spies on them through their own smartphone, as prompted by eerily well-timed product placements that uncannily showed up just as they were discussing things they wanted to buy. The conclusion they made was no, Facebook doesn't need to hijack your phone's microphone to know what you want : it has something that works even better.

    If a website has installed something called Pixel, as soon as someone visits, it checks if that person has a facebook account and logs all activities. Facebook will take the data and compile them into that user's personal profile. If a person does not have a facebook account, I believe they're logged anyway to compile a shadow profile, waiting for the day when user eventually joins.

    Haven't checked it myself as I stopped going to facebook a year ago, but they also mentioned that you can find out the personality descriptors facebook assigned to you based on all the data they collected. Under user preference or something like that.

    So activities that you share, activities you don't share, they likely have all of them.
    Last edited by sinespe; 21-03-2018 at 11:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinespe:
    So activities that you share, activities you don't share, they likely have all of them.
    I'm sure Google has that too. I'm sure Google knows what porn i like, what articles i read, the football team i support, the restaurant i will book next week etc.

    Just have the expectation that everything you do or share can be found out. Whether that is your search history, your social media profiles, cctv around the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UK/HKboy:
    I'm sure Google has that too. I'm sure Google knows what porn i like, what articles i read, the football team i support, the restaurant i will book next week etc.
    And Amazon, and ebay, and microsoft, and Baidu and so on. The difference is that the other guys hasn't been caught with their pants down like facebook just did. Nor is this the first time that facebook has been caught sharing user's info in an invasive manner.

    I suspect deep down Zuckerberg just doesn't have a whole lot of respect for other people's privacy. That "dumb fucks" comments of his posted at top of this page seems pretty insightful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinespe:
    And Amazon, and ebay, and microsoft, and Baidu and so on. The difference is that the other guys hasn't been caught with their pants down like facebook just did. Nor is this the first time that facebook has been caught sharing user's info in an invasive manner.

    I suspect deep down Zuckerberg just doesn't have a whole lot of respect for other people's privacy. That "dumb fucks" comments of his posted at top of this page seems pretty insightful.
    Same as a lot of company CEOs and founders. FB is just unfortunate they got found out. Pretty sure every CEO has a "those dumb fucks" thought about customers or suppliers or whoever they are trying to screw. They just think it inside rather than saying it out loud. lol!

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    I'm cool if a CEO think I'm a dumb fuck, as long as he's not caught saying it in public. I myself have very colorful thoughts about some of my customers, but I know enough to not blab about it, even on instant messenger or whatsapp.

    Facebook got caught though, so now even a 10 year old throwaway comment from Zuckerberg is getting the spotlight. Fair? No, but that's how the game is played. You got caught, pay the price.

    Last edited by sinespe; 21-03-2018 at 03:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoTommy:
    Yes, Brian Acton....how much money was it you made selling Whatsapp to the company you now suggest we should have nothing to do with?

    The only app founder who later sold out for billions while retaining shred of integrity is Notch / Marcus Persson.